R8 V10 Into RS4??

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Post by P_G » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:23 pm

Danny, knowing how much you have spent I doubt you would get a V10, N/A or bi turbo into an RS4 for that. You'd have to change drivetrain, cooling, gearbox, chassis and bodywork to fit one of those in. The cost of the engine itself will be way more than the s/c kit; it's not like there are many V10 engined cars in the scrappies waiting to be parted from the current chassis?

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Post by S4Player » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:24 pm

Apology accepted ice coffee I never meant to come across argumentative at all as I said explored the tt option and it was too much of a pita to do everyone has there theory on it but mines was it's just too difficult hence the supercharger once mines is finished I'll let everyone know how it is in the hope that my car being the first it will help reduce costs for future buyers of the kit as Mrc will know exactly what there doing with it
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Post by S4Player » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:28 pm

Hey pg mate I can't give an honest answer as I don't know how much a v10 engine would cost. Do you believe it would be much more than 12k? I was under the impression maybe somewhere around 8-10k for one am I way out? I know you can get an engine from our cars around 2k this could be an interesting convo because I kept hitting dead ends with regards to tt my car
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Post by P_G » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:33 am

The price quoted at the factory for a N/A V10 was 30,000 Euro's. I've never seen a scrapped V10 available but I can't imagine they are cheap if you consider how many V10 engines have been made compared to FSI V8's.

Like said though, you than have chassis, drivetrain and I imagines gearbox costs to consider on top of that. More man hours in that than s/c fitting + meth + cleaning + tuning time.

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Post by S4Player » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:20 pm

Fair enough I think someone will do it just a case of when! Other option is the 4.2 tt from the old rs6 that's more realistic
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Post by MB2 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:29 pm

At least if you go for the R8 option they are rear engined so hopefully will avoid most of the accident damage !

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Post by P_G » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:49 pm

Dannyrs4 wrote:Fair enough I think someone will do it just a case of when! Other option is the 4.2 tt from the old rs6 that's more realistic
Which I believe has already been done. I'm sure there was another thread on here with details of it. Again front end and bulkhead had to be modified.

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Post by S4Player » Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:06 pm

The fastest rs4 in the world uses the old i5 engine I think pushing out a 1000bhp.would be good to have details of that build
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Post by ArthurPE » Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:53 am

to get a reference see what a company like AC Schnitzer or the like charges to put an M5 V10 into a V8 M3
>$40,000

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Post by Doug_S2 » Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:02 am

I would put a 3 litre v6 biturbo in one for a 700ps usable everyday car. If i wasn't building a widebody b5 s4 with that engine I would have done it to a b7.
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Post by S4Player » Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:36 am

Out of interest doug go you put a guesstimate towards a cost of doing it just for arguments sake?I'm delighted with supercharging would be interesting to hear ur thoughts on this subject
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Post by Doug_S2 » Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:55 am

A different engine depends on how much you want to spend on that engine. A 3.0 litre v6 biturbo will be 20k plus custom parts to get things to fit.
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Post by S4Player » Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:10 am

I think that's reasonable let's say between 30-40k for a 700ps b7 rs4! When do we start doug ha ;)
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Post by Doug_S2 » Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:14 am

700ps 900nm is easily doable for that and reliable if you strengthen the box. That is the same spec as my 202 mph s4
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Post by Konrad » Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:27 am

Dannyrs4 wrote:The fastest rs4 in the world uses the old i5 engine I think pushing out a 1000bhp.would be good to have details of that build
Not much left of an RS4 in there, but since you asked (as of summer 2009). Ran 8.3 1/4 mile at that time.

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