RS4 B7 Stated Power claim of 420ps

[Sims]

btw: 1 month, 375 posts, 1/2 insulting me,the other 1/2 bitching about the car...

Arthur, if that is extent of your accuracy, your followers on here should start to worry big time.

They too can check all my posts, and not one of them will agree with you on the stats you mention for I am sure they want to keep their credibility.

[ArthurPE]

btw: 1 month, 375 posts, 1/2 insulting me,the other 1/2 bitching about the car...

Arthur, if that is extent of your accuracy, your followers on here should start to worry big time.

They too can check all my posts, and not one of them will agree with you on the stats you mention for I am sure they want to keep their credibility.

Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Posts: 376

this thread on deposits/HP has >360, ~1/2 of them yours or 180 about 1/2 of your total of 376...many serve dual purpose re: insult/complain

RS4 B7 Stated Power claim of 420ps posts:361 started by:sims

no biggee, just wondering why?

my 'followers'? why must you demean others...while taking a shot at me

[Sims]

btw: 1 month, 375 posts, 1/2 insulting me,the other 1/2 bitching about the car...

Arthur, if that is extent of your accuracy, your followers on here should start to worry big time.

They too can check all my posts, and not one of them will agree with you on the stats you mention for I am sure they want to keep their credibility.

Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Posts: 376

this thread on deposits/HP has >360, ~1/2 of them yours or 180 about 1/2 of your total of 376...many serve dual purpose re: insult/complain

RS4 B7 Stated Power claim of 420ps posts:361 started by:sims

no biggee, just wondering why?

my 'followers'? why must you demean others...while taking a shot at me

Check again, and let's have accurate facts this time.

[ArthurPE]

gents, it's been fun, it's been real
but it's not been real fun (just kidding, it has been)
but I must log off and disappear into the ether

if I bring out guys like sims, no good can come of it...
I'd rather talk about our cars: driving them, the engineering, working on them, heck, even cleaning them or just how cool they are...
it appears this is not the place to do that...
adios amigos
for the F1 crew, I will follow though (I'm a poet and don't know it, lol)

[Sims]

gents, it's been fun, it's been real
but it's not been real fun (just kidding, it has been)
but I must log off and disappear into the ether

if I bring out guys like sims, no good can come of it...
I'd rather talk about our cars: driving them, the engineering, working on them, heck, even cleaning them or just how cool they are...
it appears this is not the place to do that...
adios amigos
for the F1 crew, I will follow though (I'm a poet and don't know it, lol)

[northernpar]

sims, wind your neck in or move onto another forum as well.

Since buying the RS4 and joining this forum I have always found ArthurPE's posts to be both educational and informative and always written in a way that would be hard to interpret as offensive. That was until he was baited on this thread by you and others.

So, you along with a few others have managed to lose the forum one of its best contributors. Well done mate, you should feel proud of yourself

[bluenosewrx]

sims, wind your neck in or move onto another forum as well.

Since buying the RS4 and joining this forum I have always found ArthurPE's posts to be both educational and informative and always written in a way that would be hard to interpret as offensive. That was until he was baited on this thread by you and others.

So, you along with a few others have managed to lose the forum one of its best contributors. Well done mate, you should feel proud of yourself

What he said

Mac

[Sims]

sims, wind your neck in or move onto another forum as well.

Since buying the RS4 and joining this forum I have always found ArthurPE's posts to be both educational and informative and always written in a way that would be hard to interpret as offensive. That was until he was baited on this thread by you and others.

So, you along with a few others have managed to lose the forum one of its best contributors. Well done mate, you should feel proud of yourself

What he said

Mac

I suggest you both take time to read all my posts & Arthur's, and then come to a conclusion.

He has been offensive to quite a few people, and that detracted from the knowledge he offered - some cherished his knowledge and quite a few people found it highly biased & flawed.

As I said read all his posts, and mines.

Here's one thread to get you going.

http://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=PNp ... ic&t=77320

[SR71]

I'm sorry, but I'm inclined to agree with sims.

Audi should just step up to the plate and comment on the matter.

When a S2/RS2/8L S3/8P S3/B5 S4/B5 RS4/S5/D2 S8/V10 R8/TT/TTS/TTRS (amongst others) all make the claimed numbers on the dyno, if a B7 RS4 doesn't, it ain't because the dyno operator is prejudiced against B7 RS4 owners! So IMHO, the "can't trust a dyno" argument is a red-herring.

Mihnea probably has more experience with the Audi marque than anyone? And like he says, even if he does work for a tuning shop, why would he care if a B7 didn't make the numbers? He is just calling it the way he sees it surely?

I spend my life in an industry looking for the last fraction of a percent in performance. Its worth millions of dollars a year.

I do care about the last few percent, 1/10 in the 1/4, few degrees of ignition advance etc etc.

Thats why I bought a RS4 not a Trabant.

I actually have a letter from the CEO of Audi UK opening a case file on the matter and referring it to their Technical Department. Its probably still open? I was feeding back data on my oil samples to them as well but as I've got rid of the car, its a little hard for me to pursue any further and I'm not inclined to do so.

That said, I will steer away from DI cars until such time as I personally feel the paradigm has a degree of longevity in the performance sector.

The standard of debate 2 years ago on this WWW site was good, long before most of the contributors on this thread had even joined.

My own $0.02.

[PetrolDave]

I'm with bluenosewrx and northernpar.

ArthurPE has many years of real experience in engines that IMHO has been a real asset to this forum, plus he obviously loves his RS4 and driving it.

sims arrives as a "new boy on the block" and has mostly complained about his RS4 and made disparaging remarks (or worse) about anyone that disagrees with him - and is spreading his posts to many other Audi forums too - where he has accused me of "relying on ArthurPE" (I don't rely on anyone - I have enough eperience not to need to, and as anyone who knows me will tell you nobody tells me what to think).

Open discussion about possible problems with our cars has to be a two way process, and until recently our discussions here about DRC, coking, power flap operation, etc. have sometimes been heated and opinionated but have never before dropped to the level of vitriol in this thread. So I agree 100% with SR71 about the drop in the standard of debate here, and am saddened by it.

[johneroberts]

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