RS4 B7 Stated Power claim of 420ps

[Sims]

power output power output!!

where is the proof!!! Dyno's ?! there is already a world of argument that these cannot read the power accurately....perhaps on some models, but not on all

all the people unhappy with their power output are unhappy after a RR.

Is anyone really unhappy because their car feels slow, or they got outrun by an S4 with only 344ps??

no that i've seen

stay away from RR to get a power number, only use it to guage power increases after mapping

May I please refer you to the original post.

MRC are very highly praised on these forums, and they have seen the proof. If all the stock RS4's made 420ps, and some even more, I suspect they would have a smaller client base, but I accept that is not necessarily so as the MTM/Abt/Oettinger/Alpina/Brabus/AMG/Ruf/Manthey/Schnitzer etc etc experience shows.

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boring.

rs4's rock. if some of them appear a little underpowered on a rolling road then so what.

does your car do the times its supposed to and do you enjoy driving it?

mine does, and if owning one gives you sleepless nights then sell up and move on.

i've just bought my second one, and ive owned some of the fastest cars of the last 10 years, and if i'm honest, i havent put one of them on a rolling road...i just use and enjoy them, and sell them when i fancy a change.

easy!

[Sims]

i've had x2 RS 6 and now an RS 4.

I have not been worried in the slightest by the DRC...why, because it warrantied.

If it breaks, they fix it, then when they fix it, they warranty the new fix for 2 years. If its so bad, it will fail in 2 years, and so we go on again.

I have confidence Audi have sorted it, otherwise they would not have continued with it in their £80k flagship RS 6

I have only had one RS6, and I had no issues with that one. But I know of any people who have as I am sure you do too.

I have an RS4, and have had issues already on all 4 corners. Of course it gets fixed (my car is under warranty) but that is highly inconvenient but it may not matter to some people.

As P_G alluded, the problem recurs for some, so it is not a problem solved.

And yes, I agree that it is huge reassurance that the RS6 even offers a 3 stage DRC. So Audi have not abandoned DRC, and nor do I wish to for it is excellent.

Will Toyota ever again have an issue with accelerator pedals?

[Sims]

boring.

Agreed, the issue of power should never have come up, but it has and I am not the 1st to bring it up. Did the issue of power & carbon build up ever come up on the M5 or the other fast cars you owned? Maybe Vanos on the M3?

rs4's rock. if some of them appear a little underpowered on a rolling road then so what.

They do rock. And as you mention, some seem underpowered. If Audi had never claimed the output, the issue would never have come up.

does your car do the times its supposed to and do you enjoy driving it?

As I have explained, the power is more than adequate for my needs for the car. But the power was one key aspect for me to consider, as it was for Audi in it's marketing.

mine does, and if owning one gives you sleepless nights then sell up and move on.

I am happy with the package, and would rather persevere and resolve any niggles.

i've just bought my second one, and ive owned some of the fastest cars of the last 10 years, and if i'm honest, i havent put one of them on a rolling road...i just use and enjoy them, and sell them when i fancy a change.!

I too have owned many fast cars, and am not a fan of rolling roads.. The DRC affected my enjoyment of the car, and so far the power issue has not affected me, but it has filled many pages on this forum before I posted on it. And it will fill more pages after this, and yet I am confident that the carbon build up will get a permanent fix.

easy!

to all.

[^Qwerty^]

i have been up against a 59 plate M3, on a private road
straight stretch, pure foot down....it was neck and neck, but in 4th gear I was starting to pull away,

Same with mine, there was nothing in it, except mine did corners a tad faster, but you'd be picking hairs to find any difference between the two.

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Same with mine, there was nothing in it, except mine did corners a tad faster, but you'd be picking hairs to find any difference between the two.

the only obvious one is the m3 is fuglier than susan boyle firs thing in a morning.

[Sims]

Same with mine, there was nothing in it, except mine did corners a tad faster, but you'd be picking hairs to find any difference between the two.

the only obvious one is the m3 is fuglier than susan boyle firs thing in a morning.

You don't have to be polite, you can say what you like

[P_G]

How does it remain a worry when there is a fix 'should' it fail on a particular car? It then becomes as much of a worry as any other part wearing out or breaking on a car and given they are consumables, it will happen.

Ok I get it, absolutely no-one (apart from me) is worried about the DRC issue on the B7 RS4. Yet people have given up on it altogether.

I remain concerned for I do not put the DRC in the category of consumables in the accepted meaning of the term.

They become worried about it because they invariably read posts like this. There is a fine line between being informed and sensationalising and for me, the latter applies to DRC.

It would be a concern if it could not be fixed. But it has.

[HYFR]

im more concerned about the bl**dy EPC light that comes on and off more times than a funny metaphor that I cant think off

been into Audi, had something replaced, then came back on...going back next Mon

that more annoying than the DRC !

[Gumball0r]

I've driven two different RS4's my own sedan and an Avant. The Avant was the first RS4 B7 I drove and I was to say the least disappointed. It was down on power and that is without doubt. 3rd and 4th gear accelerations on the motorway felt like forever. Comparing it to my RS4 B5 (420 hp.) would be a complete joke, acceleration wise.
My Sedan however is a completely different story, it's nuts and without any doubt alot faster than the Avant.
Something must have caused this difference in power.

[Sims]

How does it remain a worry when there is a fix 'should' it fail on a particular car? It then becomes as much of a worry as any other part wearing out or breaking on a car and given they are consumables, it will happen.

Ok I get it, absolutely no-one (apart from me) is worried about the DRC issue on the B7 RS4. Yet people have given up on it altogether.

I remain concerned for I do not put the DRC in the category of consumables in the accepted meaning of the term.

They become worried about it because they invariably read posts like this. There is a fine line between being informed and sensationalising and for me, the latter applies to DRC.

It would be a concern if it could not be fixed. But it has.

With respect, they became worried because they had an expensive (some on forums have mentioned that the steep hike in warranty costs could be because of this - I am not convinced either way) and embarrasing issue on their hands, and reading posts is almost after the event. It ranks as one of the major setbacks for Audi - name me one or two bigger ones? That is not sensationilising it, merely not in denial of the depth of it.

As you mentioned, some problems are still recurring. Can you put your hand on heart and say that once all the faulty ones have been fixed once, the problem will not occur again.

[P_G]

No doubt but it could be a number of things, not just carbonisation which appears to be the hot potato of this and numerous other threads.

Could be a vacuum leak, power flap failure, MAF or lambda fault, ignition fault, coil packs........

[ArthurPE]

Sims, so I have this clear... you post on a forum, decide to leave your pc, lock the house up, drive to a suitable road, find clear traffic 5 times, do 5 timed runs to 8000 revs in your car, complete a return drive home, get back in and post the results all within 23 minutes?

In the words of Peter Jones..... Can I just stop you there, I've heard enough....I'm out!

I'll leave you to enjoy an RS4 hitting 100 in under 11 seconds but fully appreciate they have probably tried several cars and only picked the 'best' one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEsSwxw1DWU

lol, I asked the same question

[ArthurPE]

It is obvious there is a lot of debate on the issue about the power output. Tuners relish this, and people have tried additives etc to mitigate the issues with the carbon build up. This issue was raised with Audi America.

Has anyone ever raised this issue with Audi UK or Germany?

Does anyone know what the German forums are saying about this issue?

actually there is only debate when outlandsh posts are made by people looking to cause a stir...

NO ONE knows what power the car makes except Audi...
and obviously you have no clue considering your take on measurments:

I sell cookies 100/box
I'm allowed to be 10% low or 90 cookies/box
my filling machine has a +/- 3 cookie tolerance
I fill to 93, I range 93 +/-3 or 90 to 96, average 93
I make an extra 7% profit by defrauding the public
that is illegal

you are saying things for effect withno basis in fact, nor even reality

[ArthurPE]

How does it remain a worry when there is a fix 'should' it fail on a particular car? It then becomes as much of a worry as any other part wearing out or breaking on a car and given they are consumables, it will happen.

Ok I get it, absolutely no-one (apart from me) is worried about the DRC issue on the B7 RS4. Yet people have given up on it altogether.

I remain concerned for I do not put the DRC in the category of consumables in the accepted meaning of the term.

you'worry' about inanimate objects? really???
perhaps you should reserve that anguished emotional state for family affairs
but it won't do any good anyways

we can't fix your DRC, call Audi