http://www.pepipoo.com if you really want info.
I spent months on that site at the time....
IMHO I'm sure the magistrate(s) will respond favourably to a genuine argument regards the signage with accompanying documentation.
What they don't like is motorists taking the p**s. They've heard it all before.
Court summons for speeding - anyone got some experience
ok, imo you wont get banned, people shouting that out first off is a bit harsh
I went to court for speeding, i was court (no pun intended!) doing 94mph average speed in a 50mph ! Now, that 50mph was the M1 roadworks at 2am, but nethertheless its very nearly double the speed limit. . . as I already had 3 points, I was sure a ban was coming my way.
So, I got a barrister involved and LET ME TELL YOU, BIGGEST WASTE OF MONEY EVER AND DIDNT MAKE A SINGLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER.
If you are a fairly intellegent person and well spoken, you can speak for yourself.
What I would advise it speaking to a motorlawyers firm, they charge couple of hundred quid but will take the time to talk you through the incident and your circumstances and given you all the ammunition you will need to get you off with points, they will basically write up a script for you. . . .all the barrister will do, imo is read this.
When I went to court it was full of pikies driving around with no insurance, getting caught for the 5th time. If you turn up a suit, clean shaven; have a good job speak well it will give you kudos.
If you want I will try to dig out the script they wrote for me, try to think of reasons why you need the car, for work, for family. Get a character reference from someone at work and send it to the court before hand.
do you still have 3 points? IF so that will work in your favour as 6 points would take you to 9 meaning one more misdemeanor and its game over. IF you do, make a point of mentioning this.
Now the only thing that can go against you is you drive an RS 4 ! When I got caught I was only in a 1.8T, but they insisted on calling it an Audi T Sport, which made it sound fast and boy racerish; I was advised to try and book onto a speed awareness course before hand as recognition of you wanting to take steps to manage your speed. IMO that would be a better use of money than wasting it on a barrister
My barrister turned up an hour late because she missed her train from Nottingham. Bollocks did she, she was on the piss in Nottingham and couldnt be arsed to get up at the crack of dawn to catch her train, then she was only just reading my case on the train down in her hung over state !
I would expect a 6 point penatly and a hefty fine, means tested so im guessing a couple of hundred. . .
Though bear in mind, even if they ban you, it may only be for a couple of weeks. . . . just look at it like the DRC's gone bang and the RS is stuck in Audi !
Keep us posted
I went to court for speeding, i was court (no pun intended!) doing 94mph average speed in a 50mph ! Now, that 50mph was the M1 roadworks at 2am, but nethertheless its very nearly double the speed limit. . . as I already had 3 points, I was sure a ban was coming my way.
So, I got a barrister involved and LET ME TELL YOU, BIGGEST WASTE OF MONEY EVER AND DIDNT MAKE A SINGLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER.
If you are a fairly intellegent person and well spoken, you can speak for yourself.
What I would advise it speaking to a motorlawyers firm, they charge couple of hundred quid but will take the time to talk you through the incident and your circumstances and given you all the ammunition you will need to get you off with points, they will basically write up a script for you. . . .all the barrister will do, imo is read this.
When I went to court it was full of pikies driving around with no insurance, getting caught for the 5th time. If you turn up a suit, clean shaven; have a good job speak well it will give you kudos.
If you want I will try to dig out the script they wrote for me, try to think of reasons why you need the car, for work, for family. Get a character reference from someone at work and send it to the court before hand.
do you still have 3 points? IF so that will work in your favour as 6 points would take you to 9 meaning one more misdemeanor and its game over. IF you do, make a point of mentioning this.
Now the only thing that can go against you is you drive an RS 4 ! When I got caught I was only in a 1.8T, but they insisted on calling it an Audi T Sport, which made it sound fast and boy racerish; I was advised to try and book onto a speed awareness course before hand as recognition of you wanting to take steps to manage your speed. IMO that would be a better use of money than wasting it on a barrister
My barrister turned up an hour late because she missed her train from Nottingham. Bollocks did she, she was on the piss in Nottingham and couldnt be arsed to get up at the crack of dawn to catch her train, then she was only just reading my case on the train down in her hung over state !
I would expect a 6 point penatly and a hefty fine, means tested so im guessing a couple of hundred. . .
Though bear in mind, even if they ban you, it may only be for a couple of weeks. . . . just look at it like the DRC's gone bang and the RS is stuck in Audi !
Keep us posted
get as many charactor references as you can they really help and plead about the poor signing . also say how important your licience is for work and the family . your be fine dont be too nervous in court just take your time explain your case .take the photos with you of the poor signing . good luck
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Legal representation will help you.
I was done on the A9 (70 mph) stretch, caught at 109 mph, taking computers to the Scottish Ambulance service to setup their email system many years ago.
I had 3 points on my license at the time of my court appearance, and I didnt attend, letting my brief represent me.
He went through the whole, "needs a license for his job", "was delivering replacement computers for the ambulance service systems (didnt go into specifics of which system
, and the old favourite "deeply regrets his actions".
I got 6 points and a £500 fine. I was delighted with this, as over 100 should have been a ban.
I was done on the A9 (70 mph) stretch, caught at 109 mph, taking computers to the Scottish Ambulance service to setup their email system many years ago.
I had 3 points on my license at the time of my court appearance, and I didnt attend, letting my brief represent me.
He went through the whole, "needs a license for his job", "was delivering replacement computers for the ambulance service systems (didnt go into specifics of which system
, and the old favourite "deeply regrets his actions". I got 6 points and a £500 fine. I was delighted with this, as over 100 should have been a ban.
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The last ruling by the European Court AFAIK made the pepipoo "defence" invalid.
I was caught doing 77 in a 50 in 2003 and was VERY lucky to get offered a "training course" for £80 PLUS a £60- fixed penalty and 3 points instead of a "meeting" with the Magistrates. A colleague who was caught doing 101 on a motorway got a 30 day ban and a £300 fine.
Second advice above that given you were caught doing 31 over the limit that will mean a visit to the Magistrates and a possible ban - so legal advice would seem a damn good idea.
BTW for those of you that visit Hampshire - many more villages are about to get 30 limits and there will be NO signing to warn of the new limit and there WILL be lots of "hidden" camera vans out and about. Many people have been caught out on the A35 through Ashurst recently when they changed to 40 limit to 30 and didn't put any warning signs up.
I was caught doing 77 in a 50 in 2003 and was VERY lucky to get offered a "training course" for £80 PLUS a £60- fixed penalty and 3 points instead of a "meeting" with the Magistrates. A colleague who was caught doing 101 on a motorway got a 30 day ban and a £300 fine.
Second advice above that given you were caught doing 31 over the limit that will mean a visit to the Magistrates and a possible ban - so legal advice would seem a damn good idea.
BTW for those of you that visit Hampshire - many more villages are about to get 30 limits and there will be NO signing to warn of the new limit and there WILL be lots of "hidden" camera vans out and about. Many people have been caught out on the A35 through Ashurst recently when they changed to 40 limit to 30 and didn't put any warning signs up.
You are very lucky, I was caught on the M74 outside Lanark at an average 103mph and needed my licence for my job at the time and was still given a 1 year ban, £500 fine and a retest. Suffice to say I lost my job and my life at the time but I wouldn't be where I am today if that didn't happen.TopBear wrote:Legal representation will help you.
I was done on the A9 (70 mph) stretch, caught at 109 mph, taking computers to the Scottish Ambulance service to setup their email system many years ago.
I had 3 points on my license at the time of my court appearance, and I didnt attend, letting my brief represent me.
He went through the whole, "needs a license for his job", "was delivering replacement computers for the ambulance service systems (didnt go into specifics of which system
I got 6 points and a £500 fine. I was delighted with this, as over 100 should have been a ban.
Worst case I suspect for Klauster would be a 30 day ban, more likely 6 points and a hefty fine and a driver training course so long you take in the photos and explain the necessity of your licence for your living.
To be honest, no matter what people say you need to get a solicitor involved, not necessarily a barrister. It doesnt matter who you are or what you say to them , a solicitor/barrister is an officer of the court and that is what makes the difference.
Dont know if it helps or not, but I was caught doing 91 in a 60 overtaking cars (would have been going quicker but i missed a gear! lol) in a Porsche Turbo, bearing in mind i had 3 points at the time, and i was 20 at the time(June last year). Went to court with a solicitor, got 6 points, £400 fine and that was it......did have lots of character references tho from boss etc etc. I think my saving grace was elderly grandparents who i live close to, and they rely on me for help in an emergency.....so maybe something to investigate if your circumstances are similar!
Good luck mate, dont be scared, they are a bunch of jobsworths after all!
Dont know if it helps or not, but I was caught doing 91 in a 60 overtaking cars (would have been going quicker but i missed a gear! lol) in a Porsche Turbo, bearing in mind i had 3 points at the time, and i was 20 at the time(June last year). Went to court with a solicitor, got 6 points, £400 fine and that was it......did have lots of character references tho from boss etc etc. I think my saving grace was elderly grandparents who i live close to, and they rely on me for help in an emergency.....so maybe something to investigate if your circumstances are similar!
Good luck mate, dont be scared, they are a bunch of jobsworths after all!
I would certainly advise getting legal advice. . . but you have to pay for the advice, then you have to pay again to have someone represent you in court. . . and in my opinion and experience, the barrister I had did nothing I couldnt have done. . . and I really cant see how her mere presence got me off, as there are many people out there who cannot afford a barrister and so if it gave someone an unfair advantage because the magistrate would take favourably to someone represented, then this is surely grossly unfair where the poor get banned and those with money get away with it - all other things being equal
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