software for GT turbos

[redrod]

This really does bug me about these forums MRC or nothing. I have read so many old posts. Swoody is so right, about the competition.

I'm from the UK, but I have to admit..there are so many state side running GT turbos, just look around. OK most are S4, but so what.

I don't think he was advertising saying we, that could mean a friend. we recommend friends on here all the time.

RR

[DavidT]

I disagree with you again redrod.

Any tuner is welcome to post or better still, sponsor this site. Tuners are actively encouraged to do so. There is nothing wrong with competition.

Where any individual user or sponsor oversteps the mark, a moderator will get involved. The crew (as moderators are called on here) can be contacted at crew@rs246.com, by PM or by posting.

[Doug_S2]

I'm from the UK, but I have to admit..there are so many state side running GT turbos, just look around. OK most are S4, but so what.

So what? So how are you going to buy a map off a stateside tuner if they have never ran those turbos on an RS4 - the ECU software is soooo different that you cannot just guess. There is so much <beep> around about gt turbos. We get at least one email a day asking about tuning their gt turbod car as they keep going pop or not running right. It just cannot be done safely remotely. We know the limits of injectors for what power you can get, and some of the quoted numbers are impossible(safely) with the fueling they have.

[2001S4ICS]

This really does bug me about these forums MRC or nothing. I have read so many old posts. Swoody is so right, about the competition.

I'm from the UK, but I have to admit..there are so many state side running GT turbos, just look around. OK most are S4, but so what.

I don't think he was advertising saying we, that could mean a friend. we recommend friends on here all the time.

RR

Theyre arent as many GT cars over here as you think. In fact i dont even think there is anymore than 25. Gt kits are very expensive and not many people have 15k to spend on a turbo kit then another couple grand for internals to handle the power and on top of that if they cant do it themselves labor charges.

[2001S4ICS]

I'm from the UK, but I have to admit..there are so many state side running GT turbos, just look around. OK most are S4, but so what.

So what? So how are you going to buy a map off a stateside tuner if they have never ran those turbos on an RS4 - the ECU software is soooo different that you cannot just guess. There is so much <beep> around about gt turbos. We get at least one email a day asking about tuning their gt turbod car as they keep going pop or not running right. It just cannot be done safely remotely. We know the limits of injectors for what power you can get, and some of the quoted numbers are impossible(safely) with the fueling they have.

Just wanted to point out that Greg@ssp tuning used a RS4 ecu that he tuned on his S4 for his GT28s. Now his car is pullin 2.81FATS on pump gas.

[jeffw]

I'm sure Lucas's MRC RS4 will do better than that on RS6 turbos, Mihneas car does that on K04 Hybrids and my MTM 520BHP car should be around the same figures. Garrett are an interesting idea but if K04/K04 Hybrid/RS6 turbos are available at a decent price why bother spending £7K on GT turbos.

[2001S4ICS]

I'm sure Lucas's MRC RS4 will do better than that on RS6 turbos, Mihneas car does that on K04 Hybrids and my MTM 520BHP car should be around the same figures. Garrett are an interesting idea but if K04/K04 Hybrid/RS6 turbos are available at a decent price why bother spending £7K on GT turbos.

Dont forget RS4 motors are stronger than an S4 motor and have totally different intake setups. Also we also have a car over here thats stock motor and regular k04s running 2.85 FATs. Also doesnt having an RS4 tranny like Mihneas car and Lucas rs4 effect FATs times?

[MK]

Can I ask where these turbo's are available from? Are they direct fit?
Thanks

Of course, they are not direct fit ... there were rumors about ATP GT kit for 2.7T applications (seen pictures of Garretts w/ KKK exhaust flanges ) but nothing more.
With a help of Mr.Mihnea, I have made a decision to go with KKK turbochargers instead of Garretts (straight RS6's with largest K06 comp. wheel possible to source). I have seen good results with straight RS6's (take for example Dave P S4 from audiworld.com - 550whp, or MRC tuned S4/RS4 600chp+ setup seen on Youtube)

[jeffw]

Dont forget RS4 motors are stronger than an S4 motor and have totally different intake setups. Also we also have a car over here thats stock motor and regular k04s running 2.85 FATs. Also doesnt having an RS4 tranny like Mihneas car and Lucas rs4 effect FATs times?

Having owned both I'm aware of the differences. Your're right that the gear ratios make a difference to the FATS times but you make my point with the Stock Motor +K04 running 2.85 FATS.

[S2tuner]

I am aware that some people (especially one 10secS4 guy, haha) call my FATS times "bogus", and Lucas's too, but whatever FATS numbers we had, our cars put down 417 and 506 to the wheels on a Dyno Dynamics in 4th gear. Get anyone to do that in the US, I for one haven't seen any US S-cars dynoed in 4th gear (car and dyno owners too scared of blowing things up) apart from the cars that I have tuned over there.

[viperbl]

I am aware that some people (especially one 10secS4 guy, haha) call my FATS times "bogus", and Lucas's too, but whatever FATS numbers we had, our cars put down 417 and 506 to the wheels on a Dyno Dynamics in 4th gear. Get anyone to do that in the US, I for one haven't seen any US S-cars dynoed in 4th gear (car and dyno owners too scared of blowing things up) apart from the cars that I have tuned over there.

We FINALLY have a 4wd rolling road coming to the Island, so be interesting to see what I can get on that ... I will need to get him to do a 4th gear run as well then ...

[2001S4ICS]

Dont forget RS4 motors are stronger than an S4 motor and have totally different intake setups. Also we also have a car over here thats stock motor and regular k04s running 2.85 FATs. Also doesnt having an RS4 tranny like Mihneas car and Lucas rs4 effect FATs times?

Having owned both I'm aware of the differences. Your're right that the gear ratios make a difference to the FATS times but you make my point with the Stock Motor +K04 running 2.85 FATS.

I was just pointing out there are two sides to the coin. Yes Gts may be able to put out some serious power but K04s and RS6s turbos also do put out. If you guys havent seen in yet i posted up a link to a car over here that ran 11.1 on plain k04s on stock internals, rs4 plumbing race gas and dumps. Now there was also a gt car with built motor race gas and some weight reduction that ran 10.88... not that big of a difference for whats expected from a 15k++ kit.

[2001S4ICS]

I am aware that some people (especially one 10secS4 guy, haha) call my FATS times "bogus", and Lucas's too, but whatever FATS numbers we had, our cars put down 417 and 506 to the wheels on a Dyno Dynamics in 4th gear. Get anyone to do that in the US, I for one haven't seen any US S-cars dynoed in 4th gear (car and dyno owners too scared of blowing things up) apart from the cars that I have tuned over there.

Your car is on steriods and doesnt count no but seriously. Like i said in the previous post i was just pointing out there are two sides to the coin. Weve spoken a couple times you know how i feel about the stuff over here. and you owe me some emails sir lol

p.s. only 14hp difference http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUl047nhcfo