To VAG-Com users, FATS times database for the Euro S4s

[buzzard]

full length log 115 boost standard S4 except for duelcatback milltek and fogless grills.
think it is healthy so just posting for a future reference
14 degrees every thing turned off except xenons(it was foggy and there were sheep about(((no jokes please)))
Rpm load req act
1560 69.9 1040 970
1640 76.7 1360 1030
1720 85 1810 1070
1840 97 1770 1120
1960 104.5 1780 1190
2040 112 1780 1260
2160 121.1 1770 1350
2320 133.8 1760 1460
2440 146.6 1740 1580
2600 154.1 1730 1690
2760 159.4 1730 1750
2960 157.1 1720 1760
3120 154.9 1710 1730
3240 154.1 1700 1720
3400 154.1 1690 1710
3560 148.9 1710 1720
3720 145.9 1700 1700
3880 143.6 1680 1690
4000 142.9 1660 1680
4160 142.9 1650 1690
4280 140.6 1630 1670
4440 139.1 1610 1640
4600 137.6 1600 1630
4720 136.8 1590 1620
4840 134.6 1580 1600
5000 133.1 1570 1570
5120 130.8 1570 1550
5240 129.3 1570 1560
5360 128.6 1560 1550
5480 128.6 1560 1540
5600 127.1 1550 1540
5680 124.8 1550 1530
5800 124.1 1540 1530
5880 122.6 1530 1520
6000 120.3 1520 1510
6080 118.8 1510 1500
6160 117.3 1510 1500
6280 117.3 1500 1490
6360 115.8 1490 1480
6440 115 1490 1490
6520 112.8 1460 1490
6600 112 1460 1490
6680 110.5 1440 1490
6760 110.5 1440 1470
6840 94 1080 1670
6840 61 960 1180

still only gettin 220g/s at max
apart from the obvious(map or turbo)
any way of sqeezin any more?

[MarkB]

A graph showing timing for MTM, MRC and AMD on similar states of tune cars...

[CliveH]

That's very interesting Mark, and very clear. A lot of MRC tuned cars get even more timing advance than mine.

[oliew]

Mark,
this one is my other fat run 4.8 i think the timing on there is pretty good.

Time RPM MAF Throttle Timing deg.
301.04 2600 50.33 17.3 28.5
301.84 2800 92.92 100 21
302.64 3200 159.53 100 15.8
303.46 3720 193.92 100 11.3
304.27 4240 211.72 100 11.3
305.1 4760 232.53 100 12.8
306 5200 234.47 100 15
306.93 5680 240.83 100 18.8
307.89 6080 246.89 100 22.5
308.88 6440 248.92 100 24.8
309.89 6800 245.69 100 27.8


Oli

[MarkB]

That's very interesting Mark, and very clear. A lot of MRC tuned cars get even more timing advance than mine.

Yes it does show quite clearly the differneces. I chose you car knowing that the timing was much the same as cars with pre-cats fitted to show a fair comparison.

Hope thats OK

[MarkB]

Mark,
this one is my other fat run 4.8 i think the timing on there is pretty good.

Time RPM MAF Throttle Timing deg.
301.04 2600 50.33 17.3 28.5
301.84 2800 92.92 100 21
302.64 3200 159.53 100 15.8
303.46 3720 193.92 100 11.3
304.27 4240 211.72 100 11.3
305.1 4760 232.53 100 12.8
306 5200 234.47 100 15
306.93 5680 240.83 100 18.8
307.89 6080 246.89 100 22.5
308.88 6440 248.92 100 24.8
309.89 6800 245.69 100 27.8


Oli

Oli, you get the prize for the smoothest line and yes the timing does look good

[oliew]

i would of logged just the one block at a time but i wanted to see my boost also, so mine hasnt got too many values, im happy with the figures tho (apart from boost).
Did another run the other day since doing the airbox mod and my maf is now 251 at 5700rpm so i can only guess it will better higher up the rev range, my time might be better too!
Oli

[ZeroK66]

Interesting... I run more boost/less timing and Clive is the other way around. I know I would choose the MRC map as this has got to be better for lowerend power & turbo life.

[MarkB]

That seems to be MRC's thinking. It must be done whilst using good fuel though

[ZeroK66]

Mark - thanks for sorting these plots! really helps put things into perspective.

Seems AMD have very poor timing? Was this car mapped with poor fuel/running even higher boost?

[MarkB]

Even higher boost I think. I'm going to try and log mine tonight.

[ZeroK66]

Really keen to see how AMD do the boost...

[MarkB]

Look in my Boost logs post http://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=PNp ... c&start=15

[ZeroK66]

Yeah seen that , can you plot on the boost graph here what the requested boost is? Obv you have some boost probs though as the actual aint right...

[MarkB]

Ah yes, I see what you're after...