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Track Day Tyres

Post by Chubby » Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:58 pm

Hi Guys,

Just had a good weekend down at Mallory, srcubbibg the hell out of a set of Goodyear F1's.

Not overly impressed with the grip either.

Can I have some comments on tyres (which can be used to and from a track day) to fit on the 18 inch standard rims.

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RE: Track Day Tyres

Post by TarmacTerrorist » Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:13 pm

Yokohama AO48 235x40x18

or

Dunlop D01J 235x40x18

235 is the optimal width for an 8.5" rim. I would use this size for road aswell if they didn't leave the rims a little exposed (it's the rim design that causes this as they have a large lip, they sit very much like a 265 on the sportec 19x10), I had the yoko's- felt great @28psi hot :thumbs:

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RE: Track Day Tyres

Post by Hutch » Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:38 pm

Michelin pilot cups, a semi slick tyre :mrgreen: . Amazing on track once up to temperature. These are road legal although i would advise against using them as an everyday tyre (especially in the wet!) but they will get you to and from the track.

Michelin Ps2s a great all rounder IMO, although i've only had experience with the original Dunlops on the RS4 :thumbsdown:

I have used Toyo proxes t1-s on track in a clio, these are very good in the dry and very cheap, i think some of the guys on here use them on track.

Have you ever considered a spare set of wheels with track tyres on? Sling them in the boot for the road then get the girlfriend/wife/kids to swap them over at the track. :nodder: (make sure they jack the car up before taking the wheel bolts out though!)

Hope that helps

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RE: Track Day Tyres

Post by TarmacTerrorist » Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:41 pm

Do michelin do a pilot cup in the corect size?? I was under the impression they didn't.......

Audi themselves use a pirelli corsa but they are 255. Every one I have seen on these tyres seem to get large chunks gouged out of the side of the tyre walls, doesn't look that clever imho.
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RE: Track Day Tyres

Post by bakerdcb » Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:50 pm

I've got JR's old Dunlop Super Sport Race tyres and they're pretty good. Made a huge difference to the car's performance round Donnington and then perfectly civilised when I drove back home on them on normal roads. So I wouldn't worry about driving to and from circuits providing its not too wet and you're reasonably careful :thumbs:

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Post by TarmacTerrorist » Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:57 pm

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RE: Track Day Tyres

Post by johneroberts » Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:09 pm

Dunlop D01J 235x40x18
nothing else make the car handle like you wont believe
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Re: RE: Track Day Tyres

Post by Chubby » Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:39 pm

johneroberts wrote:Dunlop D01J 235x40x18
nothing else make the car handle like you wont believe
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Does this change the overall gearing, with the size as appose to a 255/35/18?

Or am I just being a bit blond...

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Re: RE: Track Day Tyres

Post by Chubby » Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:41 pm

[quote="TarmacTerrorist"]Yokohama AO48 235x40x18

or

Dunlop D01J 235x40x18

quote]

Thanks didn't even know I could fit these size tyres.

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RE: Re: RE: Track Day Tyres

Post by TarmacTerrorist » Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:20 pm

They are almost identical in rolling radius, you will not feel the difference like you do with a set of 19's.

The profile number of a trye (35/40/45 etc.) is not a fixed height, it actually relates to a percentage of the tyre width (255, 245, 235 etc.) i.e 35%, 40% and so on.
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Re: RE: Track Day Tyres

Post by TarmacTerrorist » Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:23 pm

johneroberts wrote:Dunlop D01J 235x40x18
nothing else make the car handle like you wont believe
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I dunno John, the yokos have good raves about them too, certainly performed very well for me. I also have them on the Exige as standard fit items. They just dont last all that long when used for road miles....

There is another tyre out there of a similar ilke - Toyo 888's. Sorry, dont know if there is a size to fit the rs4 but I will be trying them on the Lotus next time around as they do them in the correct sizes.
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RE: Re: RE: Track Day Tyres

Post by Hutch » Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:31 pm

Michelin pilots are 265, a little wide but they seem to work.

I have tried the A048s and A038s on the Clio and these are good with a bit of negative camber (-1.8). I found the outsides get a little toasty without, much like the Dunlop super sport by the looks of it, thankfully i noticed it before things got that bad!

Any experiences with this TarmacT? I noticed at the Audi drivers day last year this was happening to A048s on a B6 S4.

I would like to try the Dunlop D01Js but first i have some lightweight 19" MTM Bi-motos with 265/30 cups on the way.

From reports on here it sounds like handling suffers with the 19s, Is opinion on this because of the weight or width of the bigger wheel?

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RE: Re: RE: Track Day Tyres

Post by PhilT » Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:37 pm

I have the Dunlop D01J 235x40x18 fecking excellent, and the are only directional, so you can get the most out of them :rocker:

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RE: Re: RE: Track Day Tyres

Post by Hutch » Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:37 pm

err that is negative one point eight, not negative one cool looking face. ?!

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RE: Re: RE: Track Day Tyres

Post by TarmacTerrorist » Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:42 pm

Correct tyre pressures with these types of tyres is critical, you have to run them much lower than you would a normal road tyre, somewhere between 28-30 psi hot. A 'normal' road tyre would want to be running somwhere between 38-44 to help with tyre wall fron rolling over. Problem then is that after 6-10 laps they start going off.....
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