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To change, or not to change ?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:07 am
by Prawn
Looking at changing the car but really not sure what to do.
I love the RS4 and have developed it into an awesome car, however...

I am concerned about the dropping values which IMO are unjustified by the rarity etc.
The RS4 is also not particularly well suited to trackdays due to weight etc so I am interested in looking at something more track focussed.

I also no longer need the load ability of the RS4 as a 'family' car as I have juust bought Mrs P a Land rover Discovery (which although I hate to admit it is a hoot to drive)

Decisions, decisions

RE: To change, or not to change ?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:18 am
by DaveP
Does the car you change to have to be a daily driver?

RE: To change, or not to change ?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:19 am
by Prawn
Yes, but I have the option to use the Disco is weather etc is bad as Mrs P only uses it at the weekend.

RE: To change, or not to change ?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:51 am
by gord
No question - 911 RS - even as a daily driver - no, really! I used my gt2 for 50-odd thousand miles even in the winter (well admittedly not that great in the snow and ice!). OR how about an M3 CSL? Same money!

GM

RE: To change, or not to change ?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:58 am
by Prawn
OR how about an M3 CSL? Same money
Did think about that one but just can't bring myself to spend £45K on a 3 series.
Nice enough car but just dosn't float my boat.

RE: To change, or not to change ?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:35 am
by JohnW
If its for the track, there is no question about it. Has to be the 993RS.

I'm sure you already know this but be aware they are VERY stripped out.
No sound deadening, stone chip protection, or anything. This means english
winters aren't the best for them unless your in the habit of washing the
underside of your car regularly...
Absolutely stunning car though.

Most of them will have been tracked at some stage so have a real good look
over them, as most will have been repaired at some time or other (sad but true).

They are one of the few cars that are holding or even gaining money.

Something else I'd consider for just a track toy would be an Exige.
I'm looking at one of these myself. 190bhp in something so light and
nimble should be a blast.

out of your choice above though I'd go for the 993RS every time.

Cheers,
John.

RE: To change, or not to change ?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:44 pm
by gord
You can get a CSL for well under 40k nowadays.... I'd still take a 993RS though. Magnificent!

GM

RE: To change, or not to change ?

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:37 am
by simple1
Bloody heck prawn, all that time and money developing the car, just to send it down the road. Cars are not the place to put money if you want to preserve your investment, but you cant drive a three up two down round a track :shock:
I also believe that the RS4 will always be a sought after car and the values will remain as they are, even with the new model coming... but if you want a driver focused car, Porsche is really the option. There are lots of track centred cars out on the market, most of which will require constant reconstruction due to flakey build quality, so tred carefully :thumb:

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:05 pm
by TimJMS
Tricky.

Its been 12 years since I owned a TVR, and I swore after that never to buy another.

BUT

The Sagaris looks fantastically malevolent. There has been a change of ownership, expect more factory testing from now on, and best of all they are soon to be coming with a 3 year 60,000 mile warranty.

This puts a different perspective on things. Choose the wrong 993 and you could be crying all the way to the bank.

I thought the 993 RS was still mega money? Or am I getting confused with the 993 GT2? :?:

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:30 pm
by johneroberts
TimJMS wrote:Tricky.

Its been 12 years since I owned a TVR, and I swore after that never to buy another.

BUT

The Sagaris looks fantastically malevolent. There has been a change of ownership, expect more factory testing from now on, and best of all they are soon to be coming with a 3 year 60,000 mile warranty.

This puts a different perspective on things. Choose the wrong 993 and you could be crying all the way to the bank.

I thought the 993 RS was still mega money? Or am I getting confused with the 993 GT2? :?:
993RS are still relatively affordable, the 993GT2 seems to be held in some sort of higher echileons and is favoured by the out and out enthusiast. The car that also seems to be a high end Porsche is the 946RS which is also a real mans car.
I would personally look at a GT3MK1CS at around £55k you get somthing that will give most things a hard time on the track.

Cheers

jr

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:02 pm
by Prawn
I thought the 993 RS was still mega money
If you go for one of the 40 RHD ones that were made then yes they are, there were 1200 (ithink) in total made.
The one I am very close to buying is LHD, but in the 993 that is a better option as the pedal offsets etc in the RHD are a bit poor.

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:17 pm
by bjacks
I quite fancy a GT3MK1 also, but at £50k odd I have no chance.
Mind you, this is a bit more like it at £38k.

http://www.lhdporsche.com/clients/LHDPo ... 2005141246

Apart from the interior, what's the story behind comfort and CS?

Best of luck Prawn, looks like you've already decided :D

Cheers

Ben

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:53 pm
by JohnW
Ben, that left hjooker looks interesting :bigblink:

I think (though not sure) the cs also has different brakes and firmer suspension.

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:59 am
by bjacks
JohnW wrote:Ben, that left hjooker looks interesting :bigblink:

I think (though not sure) the cs also has different brakes and firmer suspension.
Now sold. You didn't, did you John? :D

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:43 am
by JohnW
Nah mate, but I did think about it :lol: