RS7 APR Reflash....

[sakimano]

To be a country it needs a national beer, an airline and an international dialing code. So, Saki, what is Canada's international dialing code? Yep, I thought so, Mommy 'Merica is still picking up all of your phone calls and telling everyone it's way past your bedtime and that you can't come out and play.

A national beer? You must be joking. Does any country have a single national beer?

And while you're embarrassing yourself with your ridiculous telephone stories, google brantford, ontario.

Anyway, as I said now that off-topic bambam aka argument loser bambam is here flailing away with insults and no relevant facts...just do your homework before you try and post a serious reply next thread. Stick to jokes.

[VARSITY]

Seriously confused,with your commentary. One moment you want/need to see the UK tuners, your original comments about MRC backing up the dyno results, with 1/4 mile results. Then you go on to say 'we' are being scammed. What is it your actually trying to express?

Maybe its because we don't buy into 0-130 times, its not a cultural thing here like it is in NA? or is it you think we are stupid as we don't understand and believe what we are being told after we pay to have our cars tuned.

You seem confused, so, again, put us right and tell us WHO is scamming who and why. Thats all I am asking for, no more or less and you can't. Does this mean your argument is flawed?

What happened with Silas's car and why? In your words.

Cheers

[VARSITY]

'I have seen some ripples on here about tuners who are full of it and not delivering on claims. For the most part though the market's pretty passive and content to get ass-raped.'

The above was your comment from earlier.

On this basis, and in consideration MRC, Unit 20, APS, Revo, VRS and other major UK tuners will represent the majority of the UK tuning business, then by virtue they must be ripping off the masses.

So, again, why and how and who are they and what are they doing to rip people off?

On my last visit to MRC there were cars from 3 continents there and were 30+ cars. They must be doing something right, or are they ripping me off too?

Cheers

[sakimano]

I'm not confused at all. I already told you two places to go and look as examples. You need spoonfeeding ? Have fun.

As for mrc I said early in the thread It would be great to see 1/4 mile times from mrc to compare to APR rather than using the dyno numbers from two dozen dynos on two continents ( useless comparison).
Later the discussion devolved into acceleration tests being useless (standard form for some posters here who appear allergic to acceleration testing but love dyno sheets strangely) and dyno sheets being sufficient in the uk.

It also devolved into those same characters saying MRC are so succesful that they don't bother doing silly acceleration testing...they were then showm that MRC in fact do take various cars down the strip at santa pod, gti intl etc for many of their projects as well as pbox testing.

Then when presented with that, and their <beep> arguments in ruins, it turned into a form of intellectual submission ....tap tap tap...and their new topic was canada needing a foreign dial code to be legitimate to an australian (lol) living in the uk.

Just in case you missed it.

[bam_bam]

To be a country it needs a national beer, an airline and an international dialing code. So, Saki, what is Canada's international dialing code? Yep, I thought so, Mommy 'Merica is still picking up all of your phone calls and telling everyone it's way past your bedtime and that you can't come out and play.

A national beer? You must be joking. Does any country have a single national beer?

And while you're embarrassing yourself with your ridiculous telephone stories, google brantford, ontario.

Anyway, as I said now that off-topic bambam aka argument loser bambam is here flailing away with insults and no relevant facts...just do your homework before you try and post a serious reply next thread. Stick to jokes.

Did I say a 'single' national beer? I guess your level 4 reading insult to me was only to cover up your own deficiencies.

Further to my point; poor little Canada invented the telephone but still doesn't have its own dialing code.

Please quote me where I was supposed to have 'done my homework' or this 'serious reply' that I have attempted? I'm pretty sure I made it clear what my do's and don't's. Remember, the only argument I am making is you're a fucken idiot. You'd probably do best to not enter into this one. In truth, you should probably stop replying to me, go on, but I bet you're too much of a fucken idiot that you can't.

[sakimano]

'I have seen some ripples on here about tuners who are full of it and not delivering on claims. For the most part though the market's pretty passive and content to get ass-raped.'

The above was your comment from earlier.

On this basis, and in consideration MRC, Unit 20, APS, Revo, VRS and other major UK tuners will represent the majority of the UK tuning business, then by virtue they must be ripping off the masses.

So, again, why and how and who are they and what are they doing to rip people off?

On my last visit to MRC there were cars from 3 continents there and were 30+ cars. They must be doing something right, or are they ripping me off too?

Cheers

So because mrc is in the marketplace,therefore I said mrc are ripping people off? RTFS. I said no such thing. You're just tiresome. And obvious.

[sakimano]

Did I say a 'single' national beer?

Yes.

To be a country it needs a national beer

"A national beer" is singular.

[bam_bam]

Did I say a 'single' national beer?

Yes.

To be a country it needs a national beer

 "A national beer" is singular.

‎Ahhh, isn't that sweat, you couldn't help yourfuckenidiotself and just had to reply. Like two peas in a Santapod we are.

So, for the level 4 readers in the room. A national beer is one that was created, brewed and distributed within a country's borders. This can be many or singular, however, if we were being pedantic we could use a national beer that out sells all other national beers over a given period. Does a country have a national beer isn't asking which beer it is or how many there might be, it's just a yes/no qualifier.‎
This is all moot because in this case it was question for bam_bam's "not a real country" index... and stupidly, Saki is arguing this point with me, which means we come full circle in my estimation that; Saki is a fucken idiot.‎ And a consistent one at that.‎
Now that I've explained away all of the clever humour, you can get back to your pointless thread.

[HYFR]

*sweet

[bam_bam]

lol'd.

[Mr Footlong]

Christ, you girls need to lay off the crack.

Chunk, sorry dude but the B7 is a LOVELY car to drive all round, just needs a load more power and it does feel like the newer generation. The RS6 is lovely for covering the miles at speed/totally battering other cars that get in its way. I have both so I feel somewhat qualified as I drive both enthusiastically shall we say.

Saki, sorry but I think mechanically unsympathetic 1/4 mile times etc are retarded and there is nothing that will change my mind on that. 1/4 mile times have no relevance for real world driving and if people do those starts off traffic lights, they are utter tools. Yes I have done them once or twice, but many, maaaaaany years ago and have learnt since.

Lots of power and an auto box I can understand planting the foot as the car knows what to do and the chances of a balls up are negligable. When doing that with a manual, the monkey behind the wheel controls the gear changes/how smoothly they engage the power/how nicely they potentially glaze their clutch if they really are tards.

Again, standing start thrashes are retarded and worthless afaic unless you like abusing your drivetrain. Rolling starts are surely less stressful when done properly you don't look like a mong potentially when on the public highway.

No I haven't read all of this thread as I fear it might put me in to a dragstrip-induced boredom coma. Boobies.

[chunky79]

Well, you're deffo a b7 owner now. My how you've changed young man

[Mr Footlong]

What can I say, I like cars that I can chuck around more easily

[sakimano]

Saki, sorry but I think mechanically unsympathetic 1/4 mile times etc are retarded and there is nothing that will change my mind on that.

No apology necessary. Lets be more accurate though. How do you feel about tuning shops providing ACTUAL performance data for performance parts, rather than just a dyno. That's my original contention. The 1/4 mile is a very good one and with a network of certified tracks around the world, more so, but there are other options.

1/4 mile times have no relevance for real world driving

Neither does a dyno...but everyone loves them off.
Neither does 0-60 mph (0-100kph), but every manufacturer of every performance car provides it.

A 1/4 mile test just expands on this and the timeslip information shows a load of info on what the car is doing. Far more than any silly dyno printout.

When doing that with a manual, the monkey behind the wheel controls the gear changes/how smoothly they engage the power/how nicely they potentially glaze their clutch if they really are tards. Again, standing start thrashes are retarded .

Nobody is demanding that all of the ham fisted monkeys here on rs246 immediately take their RSx to the strip and destroy their clutch. I am suggesting that a shop selling performance parts give acceleration data for the acceleration parts they are selling. Thats it.

And for the record my stock clutch in my rs4 is just fine. After 60,000 miles and plenty of acceleration testing. If someone can't accelerate through four gears without toasting clutch, the 1/4 mile isny the problem...the driver is, and they should invest in an automatic because the actions wrecking the clutch at the strip (poor engagement timing generally) will also wreck it on the street prematurely.

Further 100% of all future S/RS cars are automatic (dsg, dct, tip bleh...no clutch pedal equals auto) so your clutch concerns are almost entirely unwarranted. Besides if you're in the performance business surely you can find SOMEONE who knows how to drive.

[bam_bam]

S-tronic has 'dry' clutches. Tiptro has wet clutches. Are his concerns almost entirely unwarranted? Sorry, I just thought I'd be tedious and anal, like you, for once...