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Who would buy new
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:03 pm
by ollys
When you can have this 3,000 miler with Ceramics (14 plate) for a smidge over £70k???
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/ ... es/3807410
Thought it was black but it seems it might be cherry black exclusive.... in which case I am in LOVE
Re: Who would buy new
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:25 pm
by chunky79
Bet that looks superb in the sunshine. Father in law has an Alfa in that colour, when it's clean it looks nice.
Re: Who would buy new
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:40 pm
by Ian_C
A lot of car for the money compared to a [facelift] factory order
Re: Who would buy new
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:09 pm
by PSB1
Yeah, noticed that one too. I'd be curious as to the history of the car.
Re: Who would buy new
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:13 pm
by marc1
Cheery black is amazing! With you 100% Olly.
Re: Who would buy new
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:49 pm
by GLM
I could be wrong, but that could be the one that i originally spec'd with Crawley Audi and then switched over the FL version:
viewtopic.php?f=76&t=112503
The spec sounds exactly they same, although i spec'd Audi Dark Red Mica paint... hard to tell in those photos tho.
either way, lovely looking thing!
Re: Who would buy new
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 12:43 am
by ollys
GLM wrote:I could be wrong, but that could be the one that i originally spec'd with Crawley Audi and then switched over the FL version:
viewtopic.php?f=76&t=112503
The spec sounds exactly they same, although i spec'd Audi Dark Red Mica paint... hard to tell in those photos tho.
either way, lovely looking thing!
Could be the same colour - difficult to tell, but you didn't spec the ceramics on yours???? This one has them - £10k option!
Re: Who would buy new
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 12:45 am
by ollys
Re: Who would buy new
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:20 am
by HYFR
I've been to that dealer to see a SL 65.
I'd give them a wide berth !!
Re: Who would buy new
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:58 am
by W8PMC
HYFR wrote:I've been to that dealer to see a SL 65.
I'd give them a wide berth !!
Now their's a cheap barge
You'd be joining the (may get off the line & may not brigade). Always loved the power Mercs.
Re: Who would buy new
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:51 am
by GLM
ollys wrote:GLM wrote:I could be wrong, but that could be the one that i originally spec'd with Crawley Audi and then switched over the FL version:
viewtopic.php?f=76&t=112503
The spec sounds exactly they same, although i spec'd Audi Dark Red Mica paint... hard to tell in those photos tho.
either way, lovely looking thing!
Could be the same colour - difficult to tell, but you didn't spec the ceramics on yours???? This one has them - £10k option!
yeah i spec'd the dynamic plus pack which includes the ceramic brakes. Cant be many in that spec and colour etc.. so pretty sure the same car.
To be fair, the saving you get in buying that second hand over a factory order (given the deals to be had) is not as huge as you would think - its def not £30k as that listing suggests.
Re: Who would buy new
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:35 am
by PSB1
For me, as it's such a prime example I wonder why it has ended up with this dealer? Why not pre-reg with Crawley? The fact it's being sold outside the dealer network (even with a warranty) would make me wary.
Re: Who would buy new
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 1:37 pm
by Graeme4130
Blimey, 3k miles and nearly £30k depreciation
That's £10/mile or £100 for me to go to Waitrose and back !
Wonder if there's a story to this car, as that does seem rather cheap ?
When a deal looks too good to be true, it normally is (especially at a dealer)
Escuse my lack of knowledge, but what does "VAT qualifying" mean on car sales, as I see that fairly often ?
Re: Who would buy new
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:06 pm
by GLM
Dribbler wrote:For me, as it's such a prime example I wonder why it has ended up with this dealer? Why not pre-reg with Crawley? The fact it's being sold outside the dealer network (even with a warranty) would make me wary.
As far as I am aware, the car was sold within a day of going in the showroom at Crawley (if its the same car). So it has been used in anger since Dec and perhaps was just traded in with the dealer.
Re: Who would buy new
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:14 pm
by W8PMC
Graeme4130 wrote:Blimey, 3k miles and nearly £30k depreciation
That's £10/mile or £100 for me to go to Waitrose and back !
Wonder if there's a story to this car, as that does seem rather cheap ?
When a deal looks too good to be true, it normally is (especially at a dealer)
Escuse my lack of knowledge, but what does "VAT qualifying" mean on car sales, as I see that fairly often ?
Dealers account for VAT on second hand cars one of 2 ways:
1. If a car is a VAT qualifying car (i.e. was first purchased by a VAT registered organisation) then VAT is included in the purchase price (to the dealer) and the sales price to the customer.
For example: A dealer buys a VAT qualifying car for £11,750, being £10,000 + VAT and then sells it to a customer for £14,000, being £11,915 + VAT. The difference between the VAT on the purchase and the sale is paid to HMRC.
VAT on £10,000 is £1,750. VAT on £11,915 is £2,085. Therefore VAT payable to HMRC is £2,085 - £1,750 = £335
2. If a car is a non-qualifying car (i.e. has at some point been sold to a non-VAT registered organisation) then VAT is deducted from the vehicle margin .
For example: A dealer buys a non-qualifying car for £11,750 and then sells it to a customer for £14,000. VAT is payable out of the difference between £14,000 and £11,750, being £2,250.
£2,250 * .175 / 1.175 = £335
HMRC receive the same amount of VAT irrespective of the car being VAT qualifying or non-qualifying.
