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Re: Exit Stage Left?

Post by stevo55 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:33 am

Golfather wrote:Trying to find a private buyer with 70 large in his back pocket and without dealer backing is going to be a tall order.
Not to mention that most people run these on finance..

All the other C7 private ads have been on the trader for months, even the bottom end of the range in the 40's arent shifting.

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I didn't use Audi for finance I used Oracle who worked out a better deal than Audi for me. Strangely enough the finance is via Alphera aka BMW Finance.
There are lots of independent finance brokers out there apart from main dealers. I wouldn't expect someone to shell out £70k of their own savings (unless you're mad or have too much money-I can think of much better things to invest £70k into).


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Re: Exit Stage Left?

Post by stevo55 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:34 am

Eddie555 wrote:Steve I've tested the new S4 saloon. And I have to say it was a very capable car indeed. What you lose in straight line speed from the RS6 will be made up by the thrill of being able to chuck it any bend like a go kart. It really does handle really well. It's no slouch either and the engine/ exhaust note sounds kinda nice on WOT. I'd go and try one. If you're close to Stratford upon Avon then they have both S5 and S4 as demos.
Thanks Eddie the S4/5 is currently on the list as it's a brand new platform with the latest tech and also quite quick (as quick as an E60 M5 to 60 plus you get AWD). Am jacking up a test drive with both asap at Audi.


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Re: Exit Stage Left?

Post by Markp » Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:02 pm

stevo55 wrote:
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doodlebug wrote:
Markp wrote:
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I would have taken that £62k - I think you will struggle to get more than that privately. Sadly.
Agreed.
False economy am afraid-if I take that deal then I still need to shell out £££ to clear the finance deficit which kind of makes the 'save money on monthly outgoings' a bit redundant. Is what it is. Either car sells for close on asking price, a dealer can work a deal out on part ex or I keep the beast for longer (hardly the worst car to be stuck with!) until it balances out and conditions are more favourable.


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If you like the car and can afford the monthlies then yes, but your original post suggest otherwise. I would guess the differential will grow over the next 18 months with depreciation rather than balance out - add in interest and things just look worse the longer you hang on. But agree it is definitely worth trying the private market to see if you can close the gap - but if you don't I would shift pronto via Tootle. 62k was a cracking trade no hassle bid though.

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Re: Exit Stage Left?

Post by don0301 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:33 pm

Out of interest from this thread I tested a 13 plate RS6 C7 non-PE (was meant to be a 17 plate PE but this was traded in for it) and a 14 plate Porsche 911 turbo

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Re: Exit Stage Left?

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don0301 wrote:Out of interest from this thread I tested a 13 plate RS6 C7 non-PE (was meant to be a 17 plate PE but this was traded in for it) and a 14 plate Porsche 911 turbo

Tested cars 0 My C6 1 :P
If it's outright speed then your tuned C6 is going to beat both those cars hands down as it would almost anything on the road barring serious supercars. How did the C7 compare to the C6 in the corners? I know you've got the brake duct mod and also ARB's done and the difference on the same B roads I drive daily between my old C6 and the C7 is staggering. Having said that if you're still in love with the C6 then stick with it! C7's are expensive (not as expensive to run as a C6 imo). I love my C7 to bits but a reality check is in order and I'll just have to get my head around driving a 'lesser' slower car. Such is life when you hit a ceiling!
In another note I test drove an S5 yesterday and it was a pretty nice car and the tech is bang up to date. S4 Avant is also in the mix and a probable contender. Haven't driven one yet it's just a case of getting one with the right spec.
Both aren't slouches at all but it's impossible to not compare it to the RS6. Having said that the deal with the S4 would mean real world terms I would be saving an extra £4-5k a year which cannot be sniffed at!


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Re: Exit Stage Left?

Post by harrier » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:25 pm

In regards to a BMW alternative, in the BMW stand at Goodwood FOS I was told that the current 5 Series range M5 is unlikely to be available before the end of 2018.

The latest performance Audi's have a "virtual" screen on the dash, compared to a "digital" one, but, on the Audi stand this time, one of the staff demonstrating told me that he uses the equivalent of the digital display on his R8 V10 Plus nearly all the time anyway, except when he wants a larger Sat Nav image directly in front of him, so not a huge benefit in itself.
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Re: Exit Stage Left?

Post by don0301 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:34 pm

stevo55 wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:05 am
don0301 wrote:Out of interest from this thread I tested a 13 plate RS6 C7 non-PE (was meant to be a 17 plate PE but this was traded in for it) and a 14 plate Porsche 911 turbo

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If it's outright speed then your tuned C6 is going to beat both those cars hands down as it would almost anything on the road barring serious supercars. How did the C7 compare to the C6 in the corners?

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The C7 looked nice (panther black) cabin was nicer, and quieter (but I'll drive hours with music off to listen to my exhaust). felt dog slow compared to mine, handling was good, didn't like the steering really light at the straight ahead then loaded up after 20'(?) turn or so. I would def not trade mine for a standard C7 RS6 at mo after the experience. Didn't feel any better in handling than mine. ARB's made a big difference to mine. I also had the front suspension "serviced" last year after proffing a Mehle suspension kit for £140 from Amazon), that sharpened it up too.

The porsche was really light, almost "flighty" didn't feel £95k inside but looked nice outside (silver with turbo S centre locking wheels) slower than mine. I would have to drive it a lot longer to decide if I would pay that much for a car, feeling is not.

Only drove each 15 mins or so, and with a female sales passenger, so spirited driving but not a full "test"

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Re: Exit Stage Left?

Post by Ian_C » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:53 pm

Is all relative though. Im sure a few choice mods improves things (decent tyres, ARBs) but whilst a C6 'grips', I don't think you can say it 'handles'

I'm led to believe by people who have owned both on this forum that the difference in handling (between C6 and C7 on DRC) is even more of a quantum leap than say the 'turbocharged spotted dick' B5 RS4 to B7 RS4
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Re: Exit Stage Left?

Post by rtd » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:01 pm

Ian_C wrote:Is all relative though. Im sure a few choice mods improves things (decent tyres, ARBs) but whilst a C6 'grips', I don't think you can say it 'handles'

I'm led to believe by people who have owned both on this forum that the difference in handling (between C6 and C7 on DRC) is even more of a quantum leap than say the 'turbocharged spotted dick' B5 RS4 to B7 RS4
Totally. I'm sorry but some ARBs and even stiffer springs would never make a C6 capable of challenging the C7 when it comes to handling. No amount of mods is going to overcome the huge achilles heel of the C6 which is all that weight hanging out at the front of the car.




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Re: Exit Stage Left?

Post by don0301 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:05 pm

Ian_C wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:53 pm
Is all relative though. Im sure a few choice mods improves things (decent tyres, ARBs) but whilst a C6 'grips', I don't think you can say it 'handles'

I'm led to believe by people who have owned both on this forum that the difference in handling (between C6 and C7 on DRC) is even more of a quantum leap than say the 'turbocharged spotted dick' B5 RS4 to B7 RS4
Opinions are like arseholes....everyone's got one.

My car def handles, it's downside is size and weight. With the stage 2 I have to constantly think about speed, and stopping if pushing on. It really carries speed well, and quickly so have to be sharp and ahead of the curve driving it. Never tracked it, and wouldn't so nuances mean f*ck all to me.

The thing is a weapon. I've never been passed by anything in 3 years ownership, and made many disappear in the mirror. I've never "lost" it or crashed. turns flat and well after ARB's and has the power to adjust on the throttle. My first 4WD car, and I'm impressed with it.
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Re: Exit Stage Left?

Post by Golfather » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:08 pm

don0301 wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:05 pm


Opinions are like arseholes....everyone's got one.

My car def handles, it's downside is size and weight. With the stage 2 I have to constantly think about speed, and stopping if pushing on. It really carries speed well, and quickly so have to be sharp and ahead of the curve driving it. Never tracked it, and wouldn't so nuances mean f*ck all to me.

The thing is a weapon. I've never been passed by anything in 3 years ownership, and made many disappear in the mirror. I've never "lost" it or crashed. turns flat and well after ARB's and has the power to adjust on the throttle. My first 4WD car, and I'm impressed with it.
+1.

With ramics, the C6 handles even better with lower unsprung mass. Makes a huge difference.
Ive yet to drive anything that will touch a C6, and sorely miss mine. Driven the non PE and PE, and both do not even come close to the C6 in terms of noise or power.
Handling wise they feel way too light, which does not give confidence at high speeds... C6 was planted at 210+ ;)

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Re: Exit Stage Left?

Post by rtd » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:14 pm

Other than ARBs I had ceramics on mine, stiffer springs which also lowered the car and I had it setup up by professionally. But even after all that the car was and is no match for my current car.

Thing with the C6 is that V10 it is all intoxicating and glosses over many of the C6 weaknesses.

Anyway does it really matter? If I had the opportunity I would buy another C6, it truly is the last of its kind.




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Re: Exit Stage Left?

Post by don0301 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:22 pm

Golfather wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:08 pm
don0301 wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:05 pm


Opinions are like arseholes....everyone's got one.

My car def handles, it's downside is size and weight. With the stage 2 I have to constantly think about speed, and stopping if pushing on. It really carries speed well, and quickly so have to be sharp and ahead of the curve driving it. Never tracked it, and wouldn't so nuances mean f*ck all to me.

The thing is a weapon. I've never been passed by anything in 3 years ownership, and made many disappear in the mirror. I've never "lost" it or crashed. turns flat and well after ARB's and has the power to adjust on the throttle. My first 4WD car, and I'm impressed with it.
+1.

With ramics, the C6 handles even better with lower unsprung mass. Makes a huge difference.
Ive yet to drive anything that will touch a C6, and sorely miss mine. Driven the non PE and PE, and both do not even come close to the C6 in terms of noise or power.
Handling wise they feel way too light, which does not give confidence at high speeds... C6 was planted at 210+ ;)
+1 too.

I've had 213 and still pulling but had to shut off. The car was so drama free and stable, incredible. I have the standard brakes and have done what I can to improve them ( stainless lines, upgraded fluid, DS2500 pads all round and Phaeton mod). If it comes time when they need replacing and I've still got her I would look at other options, but honestly they are quite better than when I first got her.
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Exit Stage Left?

Post by stevo55 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:54 am

Without the thread getting derailed in a petty 'my C6 is better than a C7' fight (if you guys want you can create a separate thread-put it next to another one titled 'My Dad is harder than your Dad'). What Don says about opinions is bang on-he and others love their C6, I loved mine and also the C7. Let's leave it at that? All this 'You WILL agree with me!!' Is daft-Seriously fellas this gets more like Pistonheads Gassing by the day...lots of Keyboard Commandos bumping their gums and having a dick measuring contest. There's some great advice on here and most come across really well....some don't however.


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Re: Exit Stage Left?

Post by A20LEE » Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:54 pm

rtd wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:14 pm
Other than ARBs I had ceramics on mine, stiffer springs which also lowered the car and I had it setup up by professionally. But even after all that the car was and is no match for my current car.

Thing with the C6 is that V10 it is all intoxicating and glosses over many of the C6 weaknesses.

Anyway does it really matter? If I had the opportunity I would buy another C6, it truly is the last of its kind.




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Honesty, ARB's on a C6 transform them. Makes the C7 feel wobbly and over assisted, i drive two C7's regularly. There great around town but on a B road prefer the more bolted down feel of my C6. When an ARB kit is available for the C7 im sure it will be a clear winner.

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