Torque Steer

[wildbore]

Definitely don't have dynamic steering, I spec'ed the car.

The air suspension may exacerbate the issue but I don't think it's the cause. This feels very much like a battle between the steering and the power being fed to the wheels.

It is clearly something only some owners are experiencing, though, whether that is down to tyres or equipment spec or driving styles.

[Bamf]

I have air suspension and have conti's. up to now I have not experienced any issues as described in this thread. But that may be down to my driving style as I don't tend to put full power down until the car is straight. I usually ease the throttle in while pulling out, foot down to pass easing off on the return back to lane. That is a habit carried forward from driving my old 3 door cosworth. 300bhp to the rear wheels with a limited slip diff doesn't react to well to foot down then steering input to overtake. Hence my signature. it was very very wet

[Seacube]

Could it be tramlining, exacerbated by the front end going light under acceleration?

I have noticed my car doing some minor tramlining a couple of times at normal speed. I'm on 21s.

[Eddie555]

I have air suspension and have conti's. up to now I have not experienced any issues as described in this thread. But that may be down to my driving style as I don't tend to put full power down until the car is straight. I usually ease the throttle in while pulling out, foot down to pass easing off on the return back to lane. That is a habit carried forward from driving my old 3 door cosworth. 300bhp to the rear wheels with a limited slip diff doesn't react to well to foot down then steering input to overtake. Hence my signature. it was very very wet

I know exactly what you mean Bamf as it sounds like both our driving styles have been tuned from our previous cars. I too had cossies back in the day and as you well know you can't take liberties with those fast fords.

[Bamf]

I have air suspension and have conti's. up to now I have not experienced any issues as described in this thread. But that may be down to my driving style as I don't tend to put full power down until the car is straight. I usually ease the throttle in while pulling out, foot down to pass easing off on the return back to lane. That is a habit carried forward from driving my old 3 door cosworth. 300bhp to the rear wheels with a limited slip diff doesn't react to well to foot down then steering input to overtake. Hence my signature. it was very very wet

I know exactly what you mean Bamf as it sounds like both our driving styles have been tuned from our previous cars. I too had cossies back in the day and as you well know you can't take liberties with those fast fords.

You right there Eddie. I have a pin in my femur to remind me.

It'll be interesting to see how this thread plays out though. I am of the opinion it is partly down to tires and their grip level and the driving style adopted. But as it has been said earlier in the post. A car that prides itself on handling should not provide such unpredictable outcomes. That said this could be the root of the problem. with all the electronic driving aids, torque vectoring and traction control fitted to these cars it does instill in you a feeling of being immune to the fact that the chassis is trying to cope with the weight of the car and trying to put down 560ps and 700n/m of torque on acceleration. to me something somewhere has to give way.

[jezitalia]

I don't ride bikes, and perhaps my overtaking style ; accelerate into the space, pull out still accelerating and boot it past.

Update after visiting the dealer.

Took tech out, could not make the car misbehave despite trying.

Tech thinks: Hard acceleration + uneven road ( camber joint ) in centre of road is the issue.

I guess adding: Wide low profile tyre + Lots of power + "fly by wire" Electric steering ( not factored in so far ), none of this should be a surprise.

I think we have all commented on this connected to overtaking, which supports this theory.

I need to revisit this on a definite flat/ straight pc of road and see if I can replicate.

I am at the FOS on Sunday and have been encouraged to speak with a brand manager, perhaps tyres can be a discussion and this topic. This topic has been raised with people at Audi UK.

On thing I don't get, somewhat related, you can spec a leather interior but not tyres, seems mad to me.

[Eddie555]

"Quote" One thing I don't get, somewhat related, you can spec a leather interior but not tyres, seems mad to me.

When I ordered my S5 cab, Q7 and my RS6. Each time I told my stealer that under no circumstances must they fit Dunlops to my cars. I don't know whether it was luck or the dealer had a word with production but my wish has always come through.

[jezitalia]

I asked the same and got Dunlops!

[Eddie555]

I dunno how far I would have got but I would have rejected the car or got them to change them for contis goodyears or even p zeros. That's just me though.

[10biscuits]

fascinating all of you,did email my dealer today and got a reply saying they have not had any other customers experiencing this ,he had not driven a C7 but he had an S8 and he got torque steer on that,then he went all tech on me !!! but basically he was saying that the newer models have different combinations than say the C6,and wanted ( Audi ) to make the newer cars more like beemers and the C63,and also surprisingly the Stronic gearbox may have an impact,he does not think it is tyres.to be honest I am getting used to it now and adopting the pull out first approach and go like hell.the point I've been trying to make all along is that I had never experienced it before on my previous B8,B7 and 911s,so maybe it's just a learning curve,but I really do think they should warn you when you pick up your brand new C7.it is of course off the planet brilliant otherwise.

[Eddie555]

I do think pulling out first then banging it full power is the answer. Ps that's with everything in life

[jezitalia]

I agree Quattro is supposed to provide the stability to allow such manoeuvres, unlike a RWD vehicle.

Ref the tyres, yes I should have made that point, can't recall just how assertive my request was.

[MikeFish]

Maybe your previous experiences with the lower powered but better handling RSs have lured you into to high expectations. I know I can do exactly what you describe in my B7 without fear even in damp conditions. I would have assumed I could do the same in a C7 but maybe it's just not the case; maybe you just need to be a little gentler with the extra power?

[Eddie555]

Maybe your previous experiences with the lower powered but better handling RSs have lured you into to high expectations. I know I can do exactly what you describe in my B7 without fear even in damp conditions. I would have assumed I could do the same in a C7 but maybe it's just not the case; maybe you just need to be a little gentler with the extra power?

The nail has been truly hit on the head

[jezitalia]

+1 for MikeFish, but this begs the question and points towards a watering down of the RS marque and the ability of Quattro.

its not all about power, speed. If the point which I fear Eddie states "hits the nail on the head", they have forgotten the magic term handling!

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