Performance Edition at Audi City (pic content for MikeFish!)

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Post by MikeFish » Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:25 pm

Yes I thought you could have blue Carbon with any trim.
I was going to say I'd sell mine for the right price but actually I probably wouldn't. I suspect i am getting one of the first customer cars in the uk and can't wait.

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Post by Cheib » Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:42 am

Been having a look at PE's on mobile.de. A lot do have the regular 21'a and a few have red seat belts... Like this one

http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/detai ... geNumber=3#

Scroll through the pics.

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Post by boff » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:38 pm

Love it.

Jees I'm having to wait for mine, bld wk 16 ordered just after mike, but black with black pe wheels and nogaro. very excited.

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Post by MikeFish » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:39 pm

boff wrote:Love it.

Jees I'm having to wait for mine, bld wk 16 ordered just after mike, but black with black pe wheels and nogaro. very excited.

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One of the reasons why I didn't chose Nogaro. It'll be worth the wait though.

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Post by boff » Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:34 am

Lets hope so fella!!! The Ferrari Golf will wear thin during the wait.
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Post by Cheib » Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:43 pm

Given my preferred spec to my dealer to come up with a PCP deal....voyage into the unknown for me as I have always bought cars outright before.

Because I was going to specify everything that the PE has as standard over a "normal" RS6 he tells me it is cheaper to go for a PE.

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Post by DragonRR » Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:48 pm

I also usually purchase rather than finance but went down the PCP route to see how it stacks up whilst I was (and still am to a degree) mulling over a PE. The PCP cost was a lot more than an outright purchase, multiple thousands. The dealer suggested that this was partially because I was "speccing up" the PE too much to make PCP work well.
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Post by Cheib » Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:29 pm

DragonRR wrote:I also usually purchase rather than finance but went down the PCP route to see how it stacks up whilst I was (and still am to a degree) mulling over a PE. The PCP cost was a lot more than an outright purchase, multiple thousands. The dealer suggested that this was partially because I was "speccing up" the PE too much to make PCP work well.

I think I am going to come to the same conclusion....spec I was looking at has about £6k of options over and above the base BE price, although they think they have a spec changeable car that could be delivered before end of March which might mean they are keen to do a deal for quarter end.

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Post by Leo-RS » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:09 pm

MikeFish wrote:I seem to recall when someone was selling their 20s on here they said they were ET21 because I recall trying to workout if they'd fit my B7.
Yeah that would have been me, 20's are definitely ET21 offset.

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Post by Cheib » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:34 pm

Cheib wrote:
DragonRR wrote:I also usually purchase rather than finance but went down the PCP route to see how it stacks up whilst I was (and still am to a degree) mulling over a PE. The PCP cost was a lot more than an outright purchase, multiple thousands. The dealer suggested that this was partially because I was "speccing up" the PE too much to make PCP work well.

I think I am going to come to the same conclusion....spec I was looking at has about £6k of options over and above the base BE price, although they think they have a spec changeable car that could be delivered before end of March which might mean they are keen to do a deal for quarter end.
Got my PCP quote back. I don't really see why people find them so attractive apart from the "you don't ever have to pay for the car" if you keep rolling rather than paying the balloon at the end. Very simply that £7000 deposit contribution gets eaten up in interest over a typical 3yr PCP deal. So that "deposit contribution" is really Audi giving you a discount to pay for the typical interest that will make back over a three year period.

I am going to back to old school car purchasing...buy it outright. With some straight finance I can pay back immediately to get the £7k.

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Post by Bit_evl » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:44 pm

DragonRR wrote:The dealer suggested that this was partially because I was "speccing up" the PE too much to make PCP work well.
This is true. If you are going to use a PCP then you need to use a lower options spec. The options are devalued much faster as they do not noticably contribute to the second hand value at the end of the lease. If you take an 80k car and assume for ease it is devalued by 50% over three years then you are financing 40k - deposit.

The options are only over the lease so if you add 20k of options (not difficult) then this is lost over 36 months not 8-10 years of the car so has a much higher monthly cost than 20k in the base car price. This is why I moved from a wonderful RS6 to a very wonderful RS6PE as the three main things I wanted were in the base price and so "cheaper" over the lease period.

PCP and personal lease/operating lease (like a rental) always work like this. For £10-15 a month on a PCP I get the 605bhp etc rather than just a couple of the extras.

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Post by W8PMC » Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:13 pm

Bit_evl wrote:
DragonRR wrote:The dealer suggested that this was partially because I was "speccing up" the PE too much to make PCP work well.
This is true. If you are going to use a PCP then you need to use a lower options spec. The options are devalued much faster as they do not noticably contribute to the second hand value at the end of the lease. If you take an 80k car and assume for ease it is devalued by 50% over three years then you are financing 40k - deposit.

The options are only over the lease so if you add 20k of options (not difficult) then this is lost over 36 months not 8-10 years of the car so has a much higher monthly cost than 20k in the base car price. This is why I moved from a wonderful RS6 to a very wonderful RS6PE as the three main things I wanted were in the base price and so "cheaper" over the lease period.

PCP and personal lease/operating lease (like a rental) always work like this. For £10-15 a month on a PCP I get the 605bhp etc rather than just a couple of the extras.
But unless i'm mistaken, you can take out the PCP thus taking advantage of the dealer £7k & then pay it off within the 1st few days with no interest paid & the £7k saved. May be a little bit of penalty interest as i'm sure VWFS calculate interest daily so that may be a £50-£100 but you're still quids in & have effectively bought the car cash whilst still getting the dealer finance contribution.
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Post by RIV » Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:48 pm

But unless i'm mistaken, you can take out the PCP thus taking advantage of the dealer £7k & then pay it off within the 1st few days with no interest paid & the £7k saved. May be a little bit of penalty interest as i'm sure VWFS calculate interest daily so that may be a £50-£100 but you're still quids in & have effectively bought the car cash whilst still getting the dealer finance contrib
Did this with the wife's A45
I normally buy outright,why pay interest if you don't need to, unless you do this

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Post by Heden » Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:22 pm

We don't need to get in to a discussion of cash vs. finance. But, there is saying that it is never a wise thing to put your money in to a depreciating asset.

To quote The Rocks character from the series "Ballers"; "If it drives, flies, floats, or fucks, lease it!"

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Post by Cheib » Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:15 pm

Heden wrote:We don't need to get in to a discussion of cash vs. finance. But, there is saying that it is never a wise thing to put your money in to a depreciating asset.

To quote The Rocks character from the series "Ballers"; "If it drives, flies, floats, or fucks, lease it!"
Indeed. But the lease deals on RS6's are not great...you can get an S8 for roughly half the price. But you can also buy a six month old S8 with a couple of thousand miles on it for £55k. There were some stonking S8 deals around a few weeks ago though.

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