Torque steer -solution

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Torque steer -solution

Post by Markp » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:16 pm

If you experience torque steer accelerating to overtake under full power then please get your geo checked. Just had mine done at 14000 miles and car is a completely different beast - just goes where you aim it and no heart stopping moments. God knows how they set up them at the factory but mine was way out.

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Re: Torque steer -solution

Post by MikeFish » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:28 pm

Yes, totally agree, I've been preaching about how much difference an aligment makes for a while.
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Re: Torque steer -solution

Post by norman1979 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:27 am

I have had my alignment done and it still torque steers. Did you guys get it done at Audi? I complained to Audi and they did it FOC

I overtook a car yesterday and pressed the loud peddle and almost hit the car.
Note to myself: have both hands on steering wheel when overtaking :audibash:

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Re: Torque steer -solution

Post by Markp » Sat Oct 29, 2016 8:24 am

norman1979 wrote:I have had my alignment done and it still torque steers. Did you guys get it done at Audi? I complained to Audi and they did it FOC

I overtook a car yesterday and pressed the loud peddle and almost hit the car.
Note to myself: have both hands on steering wheel when overtaking :audibash:
Not Audi. I use the guy who used to set up my race car. Neil Garner - ex F1 Renault suspension engineer. Used factory settings but to Neil's finer tolerances ;)

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Re: Torque steer -solution

Post by Markp » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:02 am

norman1979 wrote:I have had my alignment done and it still torque steers. Did you guys get it done at Audi? I complained to Audi and they did it FOC

I overtook a car yesterday and pressed the loud peddle and almost hit the car.
Note to myself: have both hands on steering wheel when overtaking :audibash:
One tip: try steering in Comfort not dynamic. I found it helped before I had the geo. The Dynamic setting just weights it up making the helm more of a handful IMO.

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Re: Torque steer -solution

Post by MikeFish » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:15 am

Had mine done at an independent specialist not Audi.

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Re: Torque steer -solution

Post by jezitalia » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:38 am

Mine did this out of the box, no one at the stealers took it seriously, I was blaming the Dunlops, they were blaming the cambers!

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Re: Torque steer -solution

Post by Markp » Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:03 am

To be fair if you apply this much power over the crown of the road some torque steer is inevitable (you should try a GT3), but mine is much better now.

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Re: Torque steer -solution

Post by Ian_C » Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:13 am

This

All cars come with rear toe in to give stability and make the car understeer not oversteer. Fine on the flat, but not fine over cambers in the road, or white lines or catseyes, where one side momentarily has less grip than the other, the rear wheel with the most grip effectively steers the car.

(so for example, you pull out to overtake, 45 mph in second, right in the meat of the torque/power, the right hand rear wheel crosses the white line and/or catseye, momentarily loses grip whilst the left rear is planted, so the toe in on the left rear steers the car left)

The effect can be worsened as the rear squats under power.

With my B6 I went with OEM settings, but on my banger B5 quattro it has zero rear toe in, and front toe in at the upper end of the 'factory' tolerance

Makes the front a fraction more pointy, and dials out some of the built in understeer at the rear
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Re: Torque steer -solution

Post by Andy_W » Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:45 am

Lowering and or changing the wheels got rid of it on mine. Feels so much more planted but quite a few variables changed, lower although only 20mm , wider track and dunlops rather than conties. Feels much more planted now.

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Re: Torque steer -solution

Post by rtd » Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:25 am

Soon as I collect my car it will be going into centre gravity to have a full geo done
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Re: Torque steer -solution

Post by robf » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:46 am

I'd argue that is overkill given the lack of adjustability in the factory set up - it ain't a GT3.

Take it to an independent tyre place with good reviews and they will be able to fix it. The issues are down to the car not even having the intended setup from the factory.

Lowering a car will automatically change the camber and toe - often for the better! Can see why it fixes the issue for those who lower. I certainly don't have the problem.
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Re: Torque steer -solution

Post by Markp » Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:49 pm

robf wrote:I'd argue that is overkill given the lack of adjustability in the factory set up - it ain't a GT3.

Take it to an independent tyre place with good reviews and they will be able to fix it. The issues are down to the car not even having the intended setup from the factory.

Lowering a car will automatically change the camber and toe - often for the better! Can see why it fixes the issue for those who lower. I certainly don't have the problem.
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Re: Torque steer -solution

Post by rtd » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:13 am

For those of you running spacers did you get your cars aligned with the spacers on? Apart CG i haven't had the best of experiences with other alignment places. Anyone willing to offer a recommendation for the midlands/warwickshire area?
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Re: Torque steer -solution

Post by MikeFish » Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:19 pm

rtd wrote:For those of you running spacers did you get your cars aligned with the spacers on? Apart CG i haven't had the best of experiences with other alignment places. Anyone willing to offer a recommendation for the midlands/warwickshire area?
I use a place in leicester if that's not too far for you. Always make a positive difference. Can't remember the name but if you go to alignmycar and search it will come up.

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