New Lichfield 750bhp

[M40CCA]

Just noticed this in top gear mag while waiting for my Mercedes to be serviced

[W8PMC]

Just noticed this in top gear mag while waiting for my Mercedes to be serviced

Good job the Gen II Turbo S is quicker still.

Takes nothing away from the awesome performance for the Litchfield RS6 though.

[MartayMcFly]

You mean a specifically designed super coupe is faster than a remapped estate that is about £50k cheaper, even with the remap and optional Akra exhaust? Preposterous.

[Andy_W]

£600 for 100 HP seems value to me. A lot less than other reputable tuners are charging?

[MikeFish]

£600 for 100 HP seems value to me. A lot less than other reputable tuners are charging?

Does it actually increase power by 100bhp or do you end up with 100bhp more than the manufacturers figures?

[W8PMC]

£600 for 100 HP seems value to me. A lot less than other reputable tuners are charging?

Does it actually increase power by 100bhp or do you end up with 100bhp more than the manufacturers figures?

I'm only making an educated guess but my reckoning is that Stage 1 tune will be a more off the shelf tune & the Stage 2 is where the real beauty lies, that being the tune's customised to the car. If i'm wrong & their Stage 1 is a full custom tune with RR tweaks etc. then yes indeed it's about half the price of their competition.

Does annoy me when articles mis-quote openly as the blurb says 0-62 stock is 3.9 seconds but ours hit 60 in 3.4, great, that's 2 different measurements & likely .2 secs difference regardless of power. Also the 911 Turbo S figure is actually it's 0-62 time, not 0-60 as per the article & it's widely known the real figure is about .3secs quicker.

Hey ho though, still awesome whichever way you dice & slice the numbers.

[MikeFish]

Its even better that the mag quotes 2 different figures. In the table is says 0-60 is 3.2secs but right below it in the footer it says 0-62 is 3.2secs. Accurate journalism!

[Eddie555]

What I find as misleading is they show a picture of the Akra exhaust. I doubt you'll be getting the Akra at the stage 3 price they've quoted. Total BS!!!

[M40CCA]

What I find as misleading is they show a picture of the Akra exhaust. I doubt you'll be getting the Akra at the stage 3 price they've quoted. Total BS!!!

It did say in the mag that it was a Akra exhaust fitted

[MartayMcFly]

What I find as misleading is they show a picture of the Akra exhaust. I doubt you'll be getting the Akra at the stage 3 price they've quoted. Total BS!!!

The Akra is £4500 on top of Stage 2 or £4000 on top of Stage 3.

[bobededog]

Thought an Akra was £6k is ???

[MartayMcFly]

Thought an Akra was £6k is ???

The packages come with a Milltek, or you pay extra to get an Akra instead. On the stage 3, they use custom downpipes with the Akra instead of the Milltek ones, so it's a bit less extra.

[Leo-RS]

Better breakdown here..

http://www.litchfieldimports.co.uk/Audi/RS6/tuning

Those £4K+ costs are over and above the Milltek.

Their Stage 3 is MRC's Stage 2. They've added in an extra stage for the catback exhaust fitment. Their figures are wrong. 650 with just a tune, 730 with a catback and then 750 with a full exhaust.

Catback will add a few horsepower, not 80 and the downpipes will give about 50, not 20.

[W8PMC]

Better breakdown here..

http://www.litchfieldimports.co.uk/Audi/RS6/tuning

Those £4K+ costs are over and above the Milltek.

Their Stage 3 is MRC's Stage 2. They've added in an extra stage for the catback exhaust fitment. Their figures are wrong. 650 with just a tune, 730 with a catback and then 750 with a full exhaust.

Catback will add a few horsepower, not 80 and the downpipes will give about 50, not 20.

Is this as per the Akro thread that by saying downpipes give about 50, you mean the downpipes plus an upgraded tune to both accommodate the change & a further power increase, not 50bhp from the downpipes alone?

Article may be misleading as given it's their own development car, i'm sure they'll have turned the wick up a little higher than they perhaps would on a customers car & i'm sure i read elsewhere than they've changed the intakes, plugs & some elements of the fueling which the article doesn't mention.

What surprises me as mentioned above is the Stage 2/3 appear in line with most of their competition, however the stage 1 map only seems very cheap which would lead me to believe that's an off the shelf tune. Bang for buck if i had a C7 RS6, that's where my money would go, although i'd be interested on the torque uplift of their stage 1.

[Leo-RS]

Hi Paul,

Litchfield's are frustrating as everything is all over the place, I have spoken to Iain numerous times but he lacks enthusiasm for RS6 tuning and I'd be surprised if he's actually mapped any other than his own.

The stage numbers do not fit in with the VAG tuning scene,

Stage 1 is software only
Stage 2 is software + bolt ons
Stage 3 is hybrid turbo/big turbo.

There's no reason for his 'Stage 2' and 'Stage 3' packages, his Stage 3 is everyone else's Stage 2 and his Stage 2 is not required, it's a Stage 1.

There's not a hope in hell that software only is 650hp and then software + catback exhaust is 730hp. I had a lengthy conversation on the phone and he agreed with me and said he would update his website, that was about 9 months ago now. It just shows a lack of enthusiasm and professionalism to be honest.

He has not provided any dyno runs or charts for his 750hp claim either, (even though I have requested) nor have I seen any for the intermediate steps, software only or software only + catback.

It's near on impossible to get hold of him and when you do, it's a case of I'll phone you back and update you. (Never of course phoning back)

He has Akra catback and 90mm custom made downpipes on his car, as far as I'm aware no other power enhancing modifications.

As to your point reference downpipes, it's a mute point, if you fit the decatted downpipes YOU MUST get your car Stage 2 tuned otherwise it will be running like a bag of spanners and will produce an engine management light, it would screw up the fuelling big time. However, yes, the MRC Stage 1 to Stage 2 tune gains of 50hp are from the downpipes + the adapted map, not just the downpipes alone.

MRC have dyno'd quite a few cars now with the Milltek catback fitted and tune (So Lichfields 'Stage 2') and the figures hardly change over having just the tune only. They're all in the ballpark of around 700. Iain however publishes you'll see 650 from software only and 730 from software + catback. It's farcical and off putting. Iain should stick to tuning his Datsuns, A VAG specialist he clearly is not.