Perhaps it was the almighty GOD himself ......I don't think you actually wrote your last 3 replies yourself Blower - not your tone or style, doesn't match previous posts .... hmmmm.... I suspect someone else wrote those ....


Perhaps it was the almighty GOD himself ......I don't think you actually wrote your last 3 replies yourself Blower - not your tone or style, doesn't match previous posts .... hmmmm.... I suspect someone else wrote those ....
neily wrote:Perhaps it was the almighty GOD himself ......I don't think you actually wrote your last 3 replies yourself Blower - not your tone or style, doesn't match previous posts .... hmmmm.... I suspect someone else wrote those ....Oh no sorry, my mistake that story is a load of
Oh bugger thats blasphemy - looks like I'm well and truly f0cked for the rest of my life.....
Ok - you're starting to sound more reasoned in some parts of this post. But I'm very keen to see the evidence, or even an article, on how light has been speeded up 300 times! I hope you're not getting confused with experiments in quantum entanglement. A link to back up what you say would be good. I've never seen anything about this - and I feel sure that if this were true much would be being made of it! There are some theories floating around today that suggest the speed of light may have varied in the very early universe (and I do mean very early) - but they are employed to try and get around the theoretical inflation period of the big-bang which some physicists disagree with. Oh and please don't use the fact that physicists disagree with each other as a method to discredit science again - science is an iterative process of theory, experiment, measurement and observation, so of course scientists will disagree as they put forward their own theories and formulate their own experiments in the pursuit of truth.Blower wrote:I conducted a simple experiment on google and entered in "how old is the universe". Still they cannot make up their minds, EVEN TODAY IN 2008, though I did come across the 13.73 billion that you quoted. Its a hoot looking at these ridiculous figures even with today's technological developments and seeing the ridiculous error margins. One site said 10-16 billion years old. There is still a 60% error margin built into that estimate. Now you can pick at the year when one estimate was made but I think you are missing the point, they can't make up their minds and this is clearly not an exact science. Where is the constancy?
You assume that light has a constant speed through a vacuum because of controlled experiments conducted in the lab. This assumption is now superimposed on the area we call space, taking it as a given that light can travel through space without hinderance. Light has actually been speeded up to 300 times its normal rate(the assumption that light cannot be speeded up past its normal rate of travel is not true, its already been done). So in a controlled environment Einstein was correct to say that light is a constant and has a finite speed. However in the real world, he is quite wrong since fluctuating temperature changes in space would automatically speed up or slow down light, not to mention obstacles, such as the gravity of other planets etc. So to look at a star that is 10 million light years away and say that is how far it is I think is a grave mistake as that would assume a journey that was not hindered in any way. This would also assume that the speed of light remained at the 186,000 miles per second mark. Since experiments have shown that light can be speeded up past its normal rate, how do we know for sure that this did not occur during its journey to us? The answer is we don't know for sure, we can only guess. We can say that the distance measured is an estimation but to be honest, we don't know for sure the actual distance.
We may have been hit by meteors and debris from comets in the past but nothing that would threaten the entire planet has struck us yet.
These so called effects of black holes are yet again assumed to be the result of black holes being present. I'm not saying that black holes do not exist however, I'm not going conclude gravitational lensing, spiral galaxies etc as a final result. There could indeed be some other phenomena causing these effects that we don't know about yet and because we cannot see a black hole(only the activity which is assumed to be caused by it), I going to keep my research open. Unless we are actually there at the spot, no sure conclusions can be drawn as to what is causing the phenomenas mentioned above. We can hypothosize a black hole, which indeed it might be, however the case cannot be closed there.
Now we are actually dealing with science and intelligent research which is up my street. Science means and knowledge gained by testing, observation, experimentation and demonstration. The reason I mainly reject evolution is because it tries to erase the line between the facts and its interpretation of the facts and tries to put its interpretation in the fact column, not to mention the wild extrapolations it makes based on small pieces of observable data. There are also major political reasons to reject evolution. You forget that Hitler used this theory to justify killing off the Jews. Darwin was also a racist. The full title to I believe was his first book is: The Origin Of Species By Means Of Natural Selection Or The Preservation Of Favoured Races In The Struggle For Life. Evolution is the foundation for racism, nazism, socialism, communism, marxism and the coming new world order, coming soon to a city near you. Where you remove God, place man in charge, have no absolute laws and declare that it is every man for himself, this is surely going to be a recipe for disaster and that is exactly what the evolution theory does.
It is interesting to note that Darwin wasn't even a scientist nor did he have a degree in any science. His only degree was in theology. In fact most of the proponents of evolution never had a degree in any of the sciences yet they are deemed as great scientists today, how?
Maybe the simple answer is that there never was a beginning to the universe, it just is. Time is a human concept after all and perhaps the universe is timeless just as it is probably infinite. All the scientific theories we have today are simply our way of trying to understand what is out there, and to be frank are probably wrong anyway. Why does there have to be a beginning to it all? IMHO if the universe is timeless then it does away with the need for big bang theories and God in equal measure. I'm sure you will laugh at what I say here, but if God created the world/universe then who created God (age old question there)? In fact, as I am sure you are aware, there are religions based on God and the Universe being the same thing (Pantheism), conscious or otherwise. Personally I think that is more likely to be true, but is just as unproveable.Blower wrote:However the evolutionist still has the problem of explaining how the universe came to be. To date evolutionists cannot explain where the matter came from for this big bang. They cannot say that the matter made itself because this would be a direct violation of the 1st law of thermodynamics. We know matter cannot make itself, so where did it come from. You see without a feasible beginning, you cannot have a coherent theory.
I'm not entering your debate Blower (and yes - it's way over my head) but again you generalise. I've made no stupid or snide comments, and certainly haven't embarrassed myself. I've taken issue with you associating a mother's death with lack of faith, and with your assumption that non-Christians (me included) automatically lead less virtuous lives.Blower wrote:Its still me posting, it has always been, I just can't stand the stupid, snide comments from some of the observers on here who do not have the bottle to join in, clearly showing that this debate is way over their heads. If they such as Varsity, Dom81, Neily, Bytejunkie and others have nothing constructive to bring to the table, they should keep silent and continue observing in order to avoid embarrassment.
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