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As Dean stated the End of Term feature on the RS4 is in the Nov issue which came thru the post today.
Apparently Dean is a fan of the B5 RS4 which is ironic seeing as it got the same sort of reviews from Evo when it was launched.
I presume Dean hasn't formed that opinion from driving one because while I loved mine I never found they offered an awful lot of driving pleasure apart from the straight line performance for similar reasons to Evos opinion of the b8, dodgy damping, grabby brakes, unrewarding gear changes (albeit manual). Simply they feel old today and when new were setup for autobahns not tracks or B roads.
I've never driven a B8 RS4 but the B8s I have driven do look and feel large and can't be far off the c5 a6 platform length.
Is the issue with b8 is that its simply so big that its hard to make it a true drivers car?

Into a Focus.... Gutted

Graeme4130 wrote:Into a Focus.... Gutted

no doubt he wont be, I shall write his introductory piece;
Evo Dec 2013

After my time with the RS4, being handed the keys to a Focus Estate may seem like punishment for not reaching my targets (how much oversteer I can achieve on the way to work being one of them).
However because I can now do my weekly commute on just one tankful, the Focus is actually quicker than the RS4 - not only does the RS4 need two fill ups per week as opposed to the Audi's one, but each time I fill up the Audi, passers by ask me what I think of it while with the Focus strangely nobody takes any notice and I get the job done far quicker.
As an Evo reader you will know that propensity to oversteer is a key factor in determining a car's star rating whether it's Cadwell Park or the A406 and in this respect (for a wrong wheel drive car) the Focus trumps the Audi with lift of oversteer whenever you want it and quite often when you dont, roll on winter!

(OK bored now)

neckarsulm wrote:

Graeme4130 wrote:Into a Focus.... Gutted

no doubt he wont be, I shall write his introductory piece;
Evo Dec 2013

After my time with the RS4, being handed the keys to a Focus Estate may seem like punishment for not reaching my targets (how much oversteer I can achieve on the way to work being one of them).
However because I can now do my weekly commute on just one tankful, the Focus is actually quicker than the RS4 - not only does the RS4 need two fill ups per week as opposed to the Audi's one, but each time I fill up the Audi, passers by ask me what I think of it while with the Focus strangely nobody takes any notice and I get the job done far quicker.
As an Evo reader you will know that propensity to oversteer is a key factor in determining a car's star rating whether it's Cadwell Park or the A406 and in this respect (for a wrong wheel drive car) the Focus trumps the Audi with lift of oversteer whenever you want it and quite often when you dont, roll on winter!

(OK bored now)

*don't

Nice little read, that.

There's just no pleasing those evo kids, huh?

bam_bam wrote:

neckarsulm wrote:

Graeme4130 wrote:Into a Focus.... Gutted

no doubt he wont be, I shall write his introductory piece;
Evo Dec 2013

After my time with the RS4, being handed the keys to a Focus Estate may seem like punishment for not reaching my targets (how much oversteer I can achieve on the way to work being one of them).
However because I can now do my weekly commute on just one tankful, the Focus is actually quicker than the RS4 - not only does the RS4 need two fill ups per week as opposed to the Audi's one, but each time I fill up the Audi, passers by ask me what I think of it while with the Focus strangely nobody takes any notice and I get the job done far quicker.
As an Evo reader you will know that propensity to oversteer is a key factor in determining a car's star rating whether it's Cadwell Park or the A406 and in this respect (for a wrong wheel drive car) the Focus trumps the Audi with lift of oversteer whenever you want it and quite often when you dont, roll on winter!

(OK bored now)

*don't

Nice little read, that.

There's just no pleasing those evo kids, huh?

Do we actually care if he can type/spell correctly?

The royal 'we' or just you? In Necker's case, I wasn't being serious, he writes very well. His posts are written with great prose and he shows enviable diction. However, he did make a mistake, he missed an apostrophe, yes, very simple, I know. Now, 'we' can still understand what was written, as could you (I only assume) but there are standards to uphold, it's what separates us from the animals but just one little slip up could see all of humanity slide into oblivion a la "A Canticle For Leibowitz"... or maybe it's just fun to correct the OP so he says to himself "doh, I missed that!" It can be likened to a mispronunciation at the pub and everyone ribs you for it, like, when one of your mates says "scrotum" instead of "show'em".
I hope my reply has sufficiently answered your extremely important question, boy.

Seriously though, on a forum (apart from the photos - hence "rule 1") the only thing we have to communicate is, the written word. Let me elaborate, now I'm going to guess that you take some pride in your appearance or perhaps the way in which you speak? Writing is no different, unless you have zero qualms about looking and sounding like a slob or an inbred, then, make an effort. For example; would you try to hold a normal conversation with your mouth full or would you start shouting mid-conversation for no reason or would you start mispronouncing basic words just because you thought the other person wouldn't "actually care"? It's simple courtesy and respect, ne?

Wow 2bam, lots of run ons. Oh, and were commas on sale? I must pick some up...

What I find rather strange is that the mag criticises both the B8 RS4 and the current RS6 for their thirst. Sure, they are thirsty, but that's what you expect from a performance car, and if you compare them to others in their class they're not that much different in terms of consumption (or indeed many classic cars like Stags, E-Types TR6s etc). And they're vastly more fun to drive than a RR Sport (or any other 4x4 for that matter) with similar, or worse, consumption. Just my two penn'orth.....

Can I just say in mitigation I typed that on my iphone which considering its propensity to wildly autocorrect I didn't think was too bad.

bam_bam wrote: It's simple courtesy and respect, ne?

WTF does "ne" mean anyway? Greek word for 'yes' maybe?

Popcorn time

neckarsulm wrote:Can I just say in mitigation I typed that on my iphone which considering its propensity to wildly autocorrect I didn't think was too bad.

bam_bam wrote: It's simple courtesy and respect, ne?

WTF does "ne" mean anyway? Greek word for 'yes' maybe?

It's Japanese, look it up.

Don't worry about the typo, you'll get there in the end.

Audi Pardner wrote:What I find rather strange is that the mag criticises both the B8 RS4 and the current RS6 for their thirst. Sure, they are thirsty, but that's what you expect from a performance car, and if you compare them to others in their class they're not that much different in terms of consumption (or indeed many classic cars like Stags, E-Types TR6s etc). And they're vastly more fun to drive than a RR Sport (or any other 4x4 for that matter) with similar, or worse, consumption. Just my two penn'orth.....

It's a good point, I think no car in the evo review sphere should receive that criticism or if it does, it should be a boot note. No matter what, especially if it's sharing pages with a Lambo Countach long-termer or an Aston Martin Rapide. If your strapline is the "thrill of driving" then purpose should transcend MPG.

535dboy wrote:
Do we actually care if he can type/spell correctly?

After the 'Conduct' thread I would have though this flippant comment may have been thought through better and not posted at all?

By now the majority of us should know what Bams comments are like and either laugh at them or ignore them (he's made over 7000 posts so it's not hard to find a few). I would suggest you ignore them to save hostility on the forum and find something more worthwhile to worry about.

Anyway, B8 RS 4 . . .

bam_bam wrote:

neckarsulm wrote:Can I just say in mitigation I typed that on my iphone which considering its propensity to wildly autocorrect I didn't think was too bad.

bam_bam wrote: It's simple courtesy and respect, ne?

WTF does "ne" mean anyway? Greek word for 'yes' maybe?

It's Japanese, look it up.

Don't worry about the typo, you'll get there in the end.

You're right that it's Japanese. But unfortunately, it's out if context as the use of it at the end of a statement affirms it. Therefore, using with a question mark is cross purposes. The correct Japanese word to have used would have been 'desu-ka' which would turn it into a question

However, I have a 200mph head and a 50 mph typing hand, so I can confirm I have some of the worst grammar and punctuation on the Internet, so what would I know or care

Back to B8's ;

Does anyone else find the way audi have put the manual stick +/- changes the wrong way around really crap ? Crazy Germans !! Must've been designed by the same guy that signed off the dynamic suspension setting

only use the paddles in manual never look at the stick configiuration but for me up shift would be pull back and down shift push forward