Front Discs and pads - anyone renewed?

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Re: Front Discs and pads - anyone renewed?

Post by carsarecool » Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:25 pm

£460 for pads and £1150 for disks and pads. Makes the pads look ludicrously expensive.

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Re: Front Discs and pads - anyone renewed?

Post by boff » Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:39 am

Crikey; ouch - It's my rears that look like they'll need a change before the fronts weirdly; they are forming quite a lip (disc).

Mines at 8k now; asking for service in 1k - on the Audi Complete Service plan inclusive of tyres and brakes which at £112 p/m @ 12kmiles per annum (I'll need to adjust that granted) is starting to look like reasonable value. My wife made me get it to smooth out any bumps in the road; for example December with Christmas and suddenly the brakes need doing.

It does have it;s downsides tho; for example I'd love Winter Tyres - I just don;t see how I'd get them.
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Re: Front Discs and pads - anyone renewed?

Post by rspj » Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:04 am

I think seen disks for £600 for set on stoke audi
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Re: Front Discs and pads - anyone renewed?

Post by carsarecool » Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:14 pm

Boff, my rears are the same. They have a lip. I wonder if it was there from day one?

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Post by johnnydog » Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:04 am

boff wrote:Crikey; ouch - It's my rears that look like they'll need a change before the fronts weirdly; they are forming quite a lip (disc).

Mines at 8k now; asking for service in 1k - on the Audi Complete Service plan inclusive of tyres and brakes which at £112 p/m @ 12kmiles per annum (I'll need to adjust that granted) is starting to look like reasonable value. My wife made me get it to smooth out any bumps in the road; for example December with Christmas and suddenly the brakes need doing.
Be interesting to see if the lipped discs comes up on the health check as requiring replacement seeing as you have a Service Plan including brakes! What's the betting they don't?!!!

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Re: Front Discs and pads - anyone renewed?

Post by RSChief » Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:12 pm

Hi all,

After my grumblings to my dealer over the brakes I received a call for the service manager to advise further.

He has checked with Audi Technical apparently and there are no known technical issues with abnormal or accelerated wear on RS4 pads and discs.

He also advised that once the brake pad light does come on there is still approx 4000 miles worth of wear left on them depending on driving style,obviously.

His experience shows pads needing renewed at 12-15000 miles on average and on most occasions the discs need renewing the same time. He reckons mine have maybe another 2000 or so left until the light comes then another 4000 miles until they defo should be renewed. That would take me to about 17 or 18000miles. He reckoned this is pretty normal for RS models with 20,000 being the most he would expect them to last.
He added that of course the discs would be fully checked and thickness measured and only if below the recommended thickness would they be advised for renewal. Audi Cam video can be emailed to show the condition of discs before renewal If required and I'm not at the garage at the time.
On most normal models he would expect to see the discs last for two,sets of pads but not generally on RS models. Both normally replaced at the same time. When fitting pads only they can sometimes suffer brake judder/vibration when used with worn discs. However they would be assessed at the time and then decide what's best.

Costs: £1158 for pads, discs, labour and vat. Not cheap but I was kinda expecting more once labour and vat added.

On a plus he said ceramics are £6000 though they obviously last much longer and that on a RS6 they normally require front and rear pads and discs at 15000 miles at approx £3000.

So, guess I'll have to wait and see when the time comes. Manger seems reasonable and had the answers. Plus I've always had a good relationship with them and wouldn't expect them to sell parts that are not needed and rip me off.
I will certainly make sure I'm there when they get checked/renewed and ask to be shown the wear compared to allowable limits set by Audi.

At least they followed up on my query from the service and called back with some info. Not always a given with some other dealers.

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Re: Front Discs and pads - anyone renewed?

Post by S4WON » Thu Sep 17, 2015 7:19 am

Im no engineer, but i find it incredibly hard to believe that a consumable item like pads are designed to last the exact same time as disks. Still smells to me.

Once they have given you their opinion, get a 3rd party to check them out, like MRC, AMD, unit 20 depending on your location. Got to be worth it to save 700 quid odd

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Re: Front Discs and pads - anyone renewed?

Post by Brooner » Thu Sep 17, 2015 7:58 am

Yes smells a bit both my previous RS4s disks would go through 2 pads changes before needing replaced so as said above look at a third party when the pads need changed
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Re: Front Discs and pads - anyone renewed?

Post by smudge » Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:48 pm

I've gone through 2 sets of pads, one set of discs. The discs only went in June / July iirc. I'm at circa 37k now and my mileage has gone down over the last 2-3 months. So that would mean my discs were done around 32-34k....... I can check with the dealer if needs be?

Either way, I have to say that sounds odd to me, especially when you consider that around 80% of my mileage is around central London, so i'm stop start on the brakes all the time.
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Re: Front Discs and pads - anyone renewed?

Post by Brooner » Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:03 am

That sounds more like what you should get I normally get out of disks around 25K on my previous RS4s
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Re: Front Discs and pads - anyone renewed?

Post by RSChief » Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:13 am

Thanks guys, sounds more like what I was expecting.
This is my first RS but I've had plenty other performance cars and never had to renew discs so early.
I had an Impreza STI which I thrashed and never renewed the Brembo set up in nearly 25,000 discs or pads.

I will certainly be keeping a keen eye when it comes time to change the pads on the back of what's been experienced on here.

Thx for all the relies and comments.

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Re: Front Discs and pads - anyone renewed?

Post by rspj » Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:08 pm

Brooner wrote:just had a poke about mine today as there was a small amount of squeak at very low speed so was going to take out the pads and apply some copper coat between the pad and plate but the plate look like i would destroy it if i tried to peal it off the pad so i will just live with the squeak until i need to change my pads
so i have down 15k and there is plenty of meat on the pads will hopefully get anouther 10k out of them going by the thickness
so i think Audi are take it Michael
How you got on putting copper has it stop squeak. Mine also started at low speed
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Re: Front Discs and pads - anyone renewed?

Post by rspj » Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:32 pm

rspj wrote:
Brooner wrote:just had a poke about mine today as there was a small amount of squeak at very low speed so was going to take out the pads and apply some copper coat between the pad and plate but the plate look like i would destroy it if i tried to peal it off the pad so i will just live with the squeak until i need to change my pads
so i have down 15k and there is plenty of meat on the pads will hopefully get anouther 10k out of them going by the thickness
so i think Audi are take it Michael
How you got on putting copper has it stop squeak. Mine also started at low speed
Just had look at disc noticed that some off small holes on disc are blocked with hard brake dust. anyone had this problem before and how to remove I have tried with small screwdriver but to hard anything else I can try to clear holes
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Re: Front Discs and pads - anyone renewed?

Post by carsarecool » Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:30 pm

rspj wrote:
rspj wrote:
Brooner wrote:just had a poke about mine today as there was a small amount of squeak at very low speed so was going to take out the pads and apply some copper coat between the pad and plate but the plate look like i would destroy it if i tried to peal it off the pad so i will just live with the squeak until i need to change my pads
so i have down 15k and there is plenty of meat on the pads will hopefully get anouther 10k out of them going by the thickness
so i think Audi are take it Michael
How you got on putting copper has it stop squeak. Mine also started at low speed
Just had look at disc noticed that some off small holes on disc are blocked with hard brake dust. anyone had this problem before and how to remove I have tried with small screwdriver but to hard anything alse I can try to clear holes
You need to use a drill and be very careful not to damage the disk as any sharp edges you create will affect the pads.

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Re: Front Discs and pads - anyone renewed?

Post by carsarecool » Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:03 pm

Need to get mine replaced. Before I do, any recommendations for non-OEM pads. Just used for everyday driving with a blat now and again.

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