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Brakes needed

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:00 pm
by big fud
Hi all i have recently had a mrc stage 2 map on my rs6 avant i went to the ring last weekend and on my first lap the brakes started wobbling shaking ive ben told the discs can not put up with the heat ..Is this normal .

If so whats a good fast road pacage the discs feel like brand new stil with 0 lip.

Re: Brakes needed

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:37 pm
by IanH755
I also have a Stage 2 map and have just fitted ATE SuperBlue fluid, a set of AP Racing Discs, Ferodo DS2500 pads and (when/if they arrive) a set of Phaeton backing plates to direct the airflow on to the discs which are much better than my RS6 ones which are currently removed as they do nothing for airflow.

So far I'm very impressed but I'm doing a trackday this Saturday and then Nurburgring in early Sept so I'll give you some feedback on my setup then.

Re: Brakes needed

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:26 pm
by RS6chris!
Some ramics on eBay!

Re: Brakes needed

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:37 pm
by skirs6
IanH755
How do the AP racings discs compare in price to OEM ??

Re: Brakes needed

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:16 am
by IanH755
Initially you need both bits of the disc & hub but then it's disc only when replacing them so about £100 cheaper per disc -

First setup
2x Disc - £590
2x Hub - £200

Replacement
2x Disc - £590

Re: Brakes needed

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:39 am
by RossDagley
Standard discs are fine for the ring.

Pads and fluid are everything on these cars, the cooling duct mod helps loads of course too.

If you're getting judder then it's nothing to do with heat, it's uneven pad material transfer or hub runout - both of which are resolved with a skim.

Skim the discs, change pads to something more aggressive (if you're tracking the car something like EBC Yellows as a minimum), get the best fluid you can in there and re-attack.

Re: Brakes needed

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:26 pm
by big fud
RossDagley wrote:Standard discs are fine for the ring.

Pads and fluid are everything on these cars, the cooling duct mod helps loads of course too.

If you're getting judder then it's nothing to do with heat, it's uneven pad material transfer or hub runout - both of which are resolved with a skim.

Skim the discs, change pads to something more aggressive (if you're tracking the car something like EBC Yellows as a minimum), get the best fluid you can in there and re-attack.

Many thanks discs coming off wed for a skim and ds2500 pads ordered can some one show me this cooling duct mod please.

And any advice on brake fluid please.

Re: Brakes needed

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:45 pm
by RossDagley
big fud wrote:Many thanks discs coming off wed for a skim and ds2500 pads ordered can some one show me this cooling duct mod please.

And any advice on brake fluid please.
Here's an article (Click ME) I wrote earlier :)

Fluid is personal preference - most premium brand 5.1 fluids are similar in performance. It's only when you start looking at hardcore trackday fluids things start to specialise - and then you'll need to perform more regular changes. I would recommend something like Motul RBF600 as a good product (and I use it in my track clio).

Re: Brakes needed

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:57 pm
by big fud
RossDagley wrote:
big fud wrote:Many thanks discs coming off wed for a skim and ds2500 pads ordered can some one show me this cooling duct mod please.

And any advice on brake fluid please.
Here's an article (Click ME) I wrote earlier :)

Fluid is personal preference - most premium brand 5.1 fluids are similar in performance. It's only when you start looking at hardcore trackday fluids things start to specialise - and then you'll need to perform more regular changes. I would recommend something like Motul RBF600 as a good product (and I use it in my track clio).
Just ordered some motul and some ds2500 pads will get discs skimmed this week as there 2 months old below is the part numbers for the parts i need for the ducts can you tell me how i buy these please where from

appreciate your time ...

Re: Brakes needed

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:05 pm
by RossDagley
Can get the parts direct from any VW dealers parts department, or preferably via TPS.

Re: Brakes needed

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:04 pm
by IanH755
I'm still waiting for my Ducts to arrive, been 3 weeks so as Audi have them on backorder. However, after my trackday on Saturday I may decide to leave the ducts off as the new AP/Ferodo/SuperBlue setup was fantastic, no fade, wobbles or noises etc and I did about fifty 170mph to 50mph stops with no cool down period (stopped for a passenger swap less than 30 seconds after each stop and then away again). The DS2500's smoked a bit after 3-4 laps but they performed brilliantly.

Re: Brakes needed

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:41 pm
by big fud
Paid and ordered me ducts today they arrive tmz.

Ive decided to go for ap discs can any one help me source please asap.

Re: Brakes needed

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:31 pm
by IanH755
Here's who I used and they arrived the next day! -

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Hi Ian

The discs are £294.80 each and the bells are £99.70 each both prices include VAT.

Kind regards

Ewen MacRae
Clark Motorsport Ltd
Aquherton Business Unit
Kintore, Inverurie
Aberdeenshire
AB51 0XH

01330 860999 (Office)
01330 860111 (Fax)
ewen@clarkmotorsport.co.uk
http://www.clarkmotorsport.co.uk

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You need these part numbers -

2x CP8080Z240 - Bells
1x CP8080Z24CG12 - Right Disc
1x CP8080Z25CG12 - Left Disc

The bells need fitting to the discs (all parts supplied) and you need a 6NM Torque wrench & an E12 Star Socket (maybe E10) but its very simple and only takes about 15 minutes per disc.

Re: Brakes needed

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:20 am
by big fud
Many thanks ian i know ewen very well he supplied my seq box for my race car he is on the case

Appreciate the part numbers and link buddy.

Re: Brakes needed

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:39 pm
by IanH755
I also bought my front/rear DS2500 pads through him as well as the price was spot on.