Dilemma

[AudiPartner]

Im in no rush

oh ok, so you're nothing like me!!!

[classba]

Im in no rush

oh ok, so you're nothing like me!!!

+1..... Oh dear... When people say they're in no rush it normally means they're NOT ready lol

[TomRS]

Not sure ive come to the right place really because I fairly sure what everyone here will say but here goes....

Im in 2 minds over which car to buy or even start looking at, having owned a c5 I love the idea of owning a c6 and have always hankered after one. Ive just bought a house so have had permission fron the boss to buy a car, I have around 30k to spend but dont want to be spending c5 money on servicing and repairs ( spent around £8k in a year)

For the same money and with my sensible trousers on I could get the newer c7 bitdi, I prefer the interior of the c7 and I like the idea of similar pace to the c5 but with 45mpg and being a diesel will probably be as reliable as a wood burning stove . I also like that it will probably be slightly more comfortable than the c6, have more kit and (in my opinion) looks better.

BUT you cant get away from the 750hp (tuned) rocketship V10 monster that is the c6 ive wanted one ever since hammond tested one in the alps on top gear. Plus it wouldnt be a daily, more of a weekend car and from what ive seen far far far more reliable than my old c5.

This leads me on to my first question, are they as reliable as im lead to believe? Ive looked through the forum and in the last year can only find a handful of issues. Is this because most are under warranty so are just taken to audi to be fixed regardless of cost?

Another point worth noting is that I think the c6 will depreciate much slower than the bitdi

So what do you guys think, take the gamble and hope that its as reliable as im lead to believe or take the safe bet and go over to the dark side?

My best advice as i've owned one for 6 months now is go for it, before this i had a 32GTR skyline and a 400bhp Saab 9-5 Aero estate, both fantastic cars, both very capable of doing one thing or the other, the skyline sounded nice and was phenonmal around a track, it 390 at the wheels.
But it wasnt pratical, it EAT fuel and it was not fun to drive round town or on short journeys due to the tripple plate clutch, the saab was the complete opposite, it was easy to drive, comfortable and damn quick in a straight line but that was about it, 400hp through the front wheels meant it went through gearboxes like oil changes in the 8months it was that power i put 5 boxes in it... and it was hopeless round a track!
i mean im a pretty brutal driver and i dont nambi pambi around but still 5 BOXES!!
Anyway to my point, the RS6 does everything the skyline did put it in manual mode with the ESP in sport or off with the DRC in sport too, granted its not as raw and doesnt really give you that "im going to die if i push any harder" feeling but it makes a beautiful noise, it is seriously capable round a track taking into account its weight and if your clever with your second gear squirts out of corners you can make the back end come out to play a little bit.
Then on the flip side you can just put it in comfort mode, slide it back into D and turn the ESP back on, you can easily transport 4 people a boot full of gear and no one be uncomfortable so it did the same job as the saab. You really do get the best of both worlds with little sacrifice for either parts - comfort/fun
Yes its an expensive car to run, its thirsty i average 15-17mpg unless i do a long journey then i get 22-25 at 80-90mph depening on traffic and slowing down etc.

I have had to replace my brakes, fronts where upgraded to a tarox 16 pot setup and the rears an AP floating disc and DS2500 pads the total cost for this was just shy of £3000 (i got the tarox kit cheap)
I've had to replace tyres £800 for continentals and im due some new ones which i must get round too! but i drive it hard and its been round track a few times so 12k miles outta the tyres i have on now i cant complain too much.

The actual interior and driver comfort is second to none, the sound system is brilliant, the sat nav is great, DAB signal is good... heated seats are deligtful.
So all in all i'd say get one do it, you wont regret it, as much as i agree the C7 looks nicer its no v10 and it certainly wont make you smile like the C6 does.

I've changed my plugs twice and serviced it 5 times (oil/filter/fuel/cabin/ITG air filters) and each time it costs me around £200 in service gear for bosche parts and VW spec longlife oil.
So if you've got some mechanical knowledge you can do all those things yourself and avoid paying Audi prices, i'll take mine once a year to audi for a service to keep the book right, and i know a friendly service guy who will mark down my spark plug change in the Electronic service history so that i dont have to pay over the odds for that £400 iirc so make sure you buy one thats had those changed!!!

Other buying advice really is check its history, take a vag com scanner make sure there is no faults (as not all bring on the EML) i have one for SAI which doesnt bring the light on but returns every time i clear it.
General tidiness of the car and check for the oil leak from the oil pump very common issue.


GOOD LUCK!

[doodlebug]

Not sure about the C7 bit. C7 is a more capable car overall, updated tech etc etc. It makes me smile more than the C6 ever did, and I had the C6 for 4.5 years!

[TomRS]

Not sure about the C7 bit. C7 is a more capable car overall, updated tech etc etc. It makes me smile more than the C6 ever did, and I had the C6 for 4.5 years!

Even in diesel form? i wasnt talking about the RS

[RossDagley]

It is seriously capable round a track taking into account its weight

Erm... Maybe you have a different model to everyone else. No it's not. Far far from it.

The actual interior and driver comfort is second to "none", the sound system is brilliant, the sat nav is great, DAB signal is good... heated seats are deligtful.

"none" being every more modern Audi? 5 digit postcodes? Great? Really? And my wifes mazda has heated seats... come on...

Whilst I'm not poo-pooing your viewpoint there's some serious issues with what you're saying. The C6 WAS a top of the range, stunning motor when released. Unfortunately now it's comfort and luxury is completely superseded by a C7. And a tdi C7 with a remap will see 600nm torque - just 50 less than a standard C6 but returning 40mpg+ whilst it does it.

The C6 is still a great car - but it's dated in many ways. Not least of which is it's looks.

Horses for courses of course - they're still entirely different cars. I'd not own a C6 again though having had cars more modern now.

[doodlebug]

What is diesel?! That's for buses isn't it?

[RossDagley]

What is diesel?! That's for buses isn't it?

4.6 seconds 0-60 in the A8 oilburner - as standard... 850nm as standard! Mapped these are monsters. Oh and again - 40+ mpg

[Ian_C]

Exactly. One of our MK gang has a D4 4.2 TDi. It would out drag my S4 0-60 or 0-100 mph. And from a rolling start at least the A8 would peg a B8 RS4. They really are that quick

Can you even get an A6 bi turbo for under 30k? Much be high mileage at that price?

[doodlebug]

Yep....still horrible black cloud generating things.

And Porsche have shown Audi that Petrol is better......

The particulate tax will come along at some point, and that's going to whack diesel. I'll take petrol.

[TomRS]

It is seriously capable round a track taking into account its weight

Erm... Maybe you have a different model to everyone else. No it's not. Far far from it.

The actual interior and driver comfort is second to "none", the sound system is brilliant, the sat nav is great, DAB signal is good... heated seats are deligtful.

"none" being every more modern Audi? 5 digit postcodes? Great? Really? And my wifes mazda has heated seats... come on...

Whilst I'm not poo-pooing your viewpoint there's some serious issues with what you're saying. The C6 WAS a top of the range, stunning motor when released. Unfortunately now it's comfort and luxury is completely superseded by a C7. And a tdi C7 with a remap will see 600nm torque - just 50 less than a standard C6 but returning 40mpg+ whilst it does it.

The C6 is still a great car - but it's dated in many ways. Not least of which is it's looks.

Horses for courses of course - they're still entirely different cars. I'd not own a C6 again though having had cars more modern now.

Ross, my last car i owned was a 2002 Saab 9-5, my 2009 RS6 is the newest car i've owned so to me its the best i've had, im not lucky enough to have experienced a C7 RS or even a top spec C7 diesel.
I understand my viewpoint is probably as outdated as the car, but when my comparison was two very old cars thats all i've got to base my opinion on, i agree on the looks thing its certainly not a pretty car.. its quite bland and boring but it still has enough of a look to keep me looking back at it everytime i walk away.
Of course the car is dated... like every other car/electronic item etc you buy its outdated within a year.
Its all personal opinion i'd love a C7 RS6 but i dont have £75k to pull out my ass, as for the track comment i race an alfa 155, have driven many quick track cars, Porche's, turbo'd clios, even a r35GTR plus owned as i said a 32GTR and currently have an Accord Type R as a track car.. and yes its not a foccused track car by any means but it is capable its certainly not a slouch and as i said in my orginaly message taking into account its weight it is capable for what it is.

as for diesels they dont excite me no matter how many nm's of torque they produce or how quick they are... bottom line is its not a noise i enjoy and therefore dont particually care for them, if i reach that point in my life where i want a diesel then i'll know i've gotten too old... they dont make an RS6 diesel for a reason, because its not exciting, as i said yeah they are quick and impressive but by no means does anyone who's a true motor head actually want a diesel... you buy a diesel cos you care about MPG.
I appreciate them and understand how far diesel tech has come, but still i wont ever own one as long as petrol engines exist thats where i'll be

Yep....still horrible black cloud generating things.

And Porsche have shown Audi that Petrol is better......

The particulate tax will come along at some point, and that's going to whack diesel. I'll take petrol.

Agreed, thats pretty much my viewpoint!

[RossDagley]

I understand what you're saying about the C6 being the best car you've had, but you're dismissing the C7 (diesel or otherwise) when you've not been in anything so much more "modern". That's a little unfair. I think a C7 A6 is better looking more often than not than a C6 RS6 personally. The A4's are a different kettle of fish as they dont have the presence the A6's do.

And anyone (not aimed at you!) who dismisses diesels as oil-burning slow clattery old smoke machines is living in the 80's. A remapped 330d for example will eat my RS4 for breakfast on a rolling start for example. They can be seriously seriously quick.

[doodlebug]

Still a horrible diesel with all of the charisma of a wet turd. Sorry, they may be quick but they still chuck soot, sound <beep> and are generally dull.

Go to Le Mans. Audi silent death wafts past....boring. Porsche flies past with its pokey V4, much more interesting, then the Toyota, the GTE/A cars......

[RossDagley]

Go to Le Mans. Audi silent death wafts past....boring. Porsche flies past with its pokey V4, much more interesting, then the Toyota, the GTE/A cars......

At least you got the procession order correct.

[HYFR]

Ive not seen a gram of soot escape from my piss and slippers V6 3.0 diesel.

Diesels can be fun if the chassis underneath is sorted. Sadly that is not the case with any VWG product therefore I'd go petrol

BMW and Jaguar have recent handling diesels which makes them bearable.