Lowering the C6 RS6

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Lowering the C6 RS6

Post by kidyamlo » Tue May 20, 2014 9:31 pm

KW kit that works with DRC (I think from 10 to 40mm drop; adjustable obviously) or fixed 30mm drop H&R? Had H&R on a B5 RS4 and lost count of the amount of speed-bumps I scraped during my ownership... so more inclined to go with KW and drop, say, 20mm all round. Who here can speak from (bitter?) experience? :P

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Re: Lowering the C6 RS6

Post by Golfather » Tue May 20, 2014 10:44 pm

KW FTW.

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Re: Lowering the C6 RS6

Post by kidyamlo » Tue May 20, 2014 11:21 pm

That's good enough for me

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Re: Lowering the C6 RS6

Post by RS6chris! » Wed May 21, 2014 5:10 pm

I'm KW
Fits original DRC all good for me.

20-25mm drop all round for me.

I'm running 10mm front spacers...8mm rears.
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Re: Lowering the C6 RS6

Post by kidyamlo » Wed May 21, 2014 9:14 pm

That's two for the KW - cool, thanks!

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Re: Lowering the C6 RS6

Post by kidyamlo » Wed May 21, 2014 9:15 pm

I should add.. it's more for the handling than the ride height (a few mm lower is a bonus, aesthetically speaking, but I happen to think that the C6 sits quite nicely as is). Do the KWs provide a big improvement in the corners? I know this is a heavy car so I don't expect miracles...

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Re: Lowering the C6 RS6

Post by skirs6 » Fri May 23, 2014 9:45 pm

I agree with the ride height the C6 sits nice pointless lowering such a heavy car. If you want a car for handling get a Mitsubishi EVO. I had three finishing on the X. For handling you couldn't beat it.
I love the C6 but see no reason to change anything ride height wise.

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Re: Lowering the C6 RS6

Post by classba » Thu May 29, 2014 12:17 pm

skirs6 wrote:I agree with the ride height the C6 sits nice pointless lowering such a heavy car. If you want a car for handling get a Mitsubishi EVO. I had three finishing on the X. For handling you couldn't beat it.
I love the C6 but see no reason to change anything ride height wise.
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Re: Lowering the C6 RS6

Post by kidyamlo » Thu May 29, 2014 1:04 pm

classba wrote:
skirs6 wrote:I agree with the ride height the C6 sits nice pointless lowering such a heavy car. If you want a car for handling get a Mitsubishi EVO. I had three finishing on the X. For handling you couldn't beat it.
I love the C6 but see no reason to change anything ride height wise.
You won't know what you're missing fella.
Please elaborate, as that was the nature or my original question - i.e. would be doing this more for handling than looks. :)

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Re: Lowering the C6 RS6

Post by classba » Thu May 29, 2014 2:30 pm

http://forum.rs246.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=107419

It's been covered few times... do a search or check out above link.

My car is running 10.5 x 22" with 285-25 section tyres so it feels more nimble and direct compared to the OEM 20" ( Yes I have driven a 6 with OEM wheels and KW's) due to the wider track and less side wall flex.
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Re: Lowering the C6 RS6

Post by kidyamlo » Thu May 29, 2014 4:14 pm

classba wrote:http://forum.rs246.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=107419

It's been covered few times... do a search or check out above link.

My car is running 10.5 x 22" with 285-25 section tyres so it feels more nimble and direct compared to the OEM 20" ( Yes I have driven a 6 with OEM wheels and KW's) due to the wider track and less side wall flex.
Thanks :wink:

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Re: Lowering the C6 RS6

Post by R33 » Thu May 29, 2014 4:53 pm

Other than slightly lowering the centre of gravity I don't think you will gain anything from lowering or stiffening the ride. It may feel better but if you were able to accurately time a before and after personally I think you'd lose not gain time. I remember years back at the ring in my GTR with the legendary Dirk Schoysman he was so critical of people modifying their GTR suspension. He'd constantly say why do you think we spend 1000's upon 1000's of hours testing on the road and track only for someone to come along and whack some lowering springs on to think they are improving handling. Also when my mate used to race in the Ferrari Maranello Championship his ex F1 suspension engineer (main suspension chap for a major team) used to laugh at how low and stiff so many of the race cars were and we proved in our team that most of the time this principal yielded very negative benefits.

Yes the standard suspension has to be all things to all men and hence is compromised in many ways but if you change it you will bias that compromise in other ways that may not be beneficial.

I'm not saying for a minute that I'm an expert but I've certainly taken advice in the past from some top experts!

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Re: Lowering the C6 RS6

Post by classba » Thu May 29, 2014 6:07 pm

R33 wrote:Other than slightly lowering the centre of gravity I don't think you will gain anything from lowering or stiffening the ride. It may feel better but if you were able to accurately time a before and after personally I think you'd lose not gain time. I remember years back at the ring in my GTR with the legendary Dirk Schoysman he was so critical of people modifying their GTR suspension. He'd constantly say why do you think we spend 1000's upon 1000's of hours testing on the road and track only for someone to come along and whack some lowering springs on to think they are improving handling. Also when my mate used to race in the Ferrari Maranello Championship his ex F1 suspension engineer (main suspension chap for a major team) used to laugh at how low and stiff so many of the race cars were and we proved in our team that most of the time this principal yielded very negative benefits.

Yes the standard suspension has to be all things to all men and hence is compromised in many ways but if you change it you will bias that compromise in other ways that may not be beneficial.

I'm not saying for a minute that I'm an expert but I've certainly taken advice in the past from some top experts!
R33, I totally agree with you in regards to someone just slapping on some lowering springs but that was in the good old days ( I've been there and done it so many times). I've matured now ( I hope) and I'm not one to change anything on the RS6 to compromise it in any ways. KW conduct long R&D into each of their products and even have a real road load stimulator to test each product before they go into the retail sector. They measure the OEM setup data then with the info, they improve on it in all areas without sacrificing anything.
The KW kit consist of spring platforms, springs and shorter heavier duty bump stops.

IMO, the most important thing here is how YOU feel when driving the car with any mods done especially for the suspension. For me at least, the car with the KW's feels more tauter and the turn in especially for slow corners and out of give ways are sharper/ quicker which gives ME the confidence to drive it as though I've stolen it LOl... :bigblink:
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Re: Lowering the C6 RS6

Post by toofattodrive » Fri May 30, 2014 8:38 am

Out of interest how low is the RS6 C6 with the factory settings?

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Re: Lowering the C6 RS6

Post by classba » Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:51 am

toofattodrive wrote:Out of interest how low is the RS6 C6 with the factory settings?
Plenty of info if you google or measure your own car if you have a 6.
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