Help! Spacer problem.

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Help! Spacer problem.

Post by Shoppinit » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:20 am

Just installing some H&R spacers on the RS4 and I've immediately run into a problem. The 8mm spacers on the front don't seem to be hubcentric.

There is nothing to center the wheel on the spigot at all other than the bolts and, having done this experiment on the RS6, I know this isn't going to work.

Have I got the wrong spacers?

How are you guys doing it?

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Re: Help! Spacer problem.

Post by Timster » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:39 am

Yup... you've got the wrong spacers.
Should be hub-centric. H&R do a couple of versions and these aren't the one's you want.

There's a recent thread on here somewhere that shows the correct model numbers.
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Re: Help! Spacer problem.

Post by Shoppinit » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:01 pm

This?
Timster wrote:Just checked the boxes that mine came supplied in last year.

Rear. 10mm : 2055571A
These fit perfectly
No Lip

Front. 8mm : 1655572
Again, these fit perfectly.
No Lip
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Re: Help! Spacer problem.

Post by Shoppinit » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:01 pm

OK. The ones I have are part number 1655571.

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Re: Help! Spacer problem.

Post by C5ARK_RS4 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:58 pm

Anyone have a picture of what they should look like?

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Re: Help! Spacer problem.

Post by MB2 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:27 pm

This photo gives you as good an idea as any - http://daliracing.com/v666-5/catalog/in ... ?focus=884

Basically the flange on the hub should fit into the spacer and the spacer provides a new flange for the wheel to seat onto - OP it looks like you are right and your spacers are not hubcentric.

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Re: Help! Spacer problem.

Post by Shoppinit » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:33 pm

Don't 10mm spacers fit on the front?

Looking at the photo, there is awfully little space between the spigot and the centering ring for a spigot extension on 8mm spacers, especially in aluminium. I would worry about shearing it off.
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Re: Help! Spacer problem.

Post by Timster » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:55 pm

No Shop'... in the flesh the 8mm with hub is fine. No way you're going to shear them off as your tight against the hub/spacer.
You can put 10's on the front, it's just that most people consider larger rears (relatively) as the preferred setup.

I think people have done front-10 rear-12.
Most people do front-8 rear-10. (it also depends on what tyres/suspension you have)

Cant you just swap the models you have for the correct version, or are they scuffed-up now?
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Re: Help! Spacer problem.

Post by Shoppinit » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:03 pm

No, I didn't tighten them up. Hopefully they'll swap 'em for the right ones. We'll see. The place they came from doesn't seem to offer the 1655572.

Thanks for all the good info, anyway. :thumbs:

I have already seen this, which is what was making me feel uneasy:

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Re: Help! Spacer problem.

Post by Virdee Autos » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:19 pm

We have the correct ones in stock as always!

Yes that does happen in your pic if you use the wrong ones or don't follow the instructions inside the box.
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Re: Help! Spacer problem.

Post by pandavet » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:53 pm

Thank you for your help. It was my RS4. :thumb:
I was also surprised when I opened the box and found this all flat spacers... :shock: But I thought it was normal.

I'll mail the seller for an exchange between the 2 models, because his website doesn't list different models of 8 mm spacers, and espescially, the choice was made under "made, model" filters and so, the spacer should fit the RS4 b7.
H&R wrote on its notice that an exchange is always possible if the spacers were not used. I hope this is true...

I don't post so much on RS246, but I read everyday. Thank you again. :beerchug:

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