Clutch pedal not returning properly again please help

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Clutch pedal not returning properly again please help

Post by wellzieRS4 » Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:01 pm

I have just got my car from the Audi specialist after complaining about the clutch pedal not returning properly and its hardly any different, they have changed the following.
master cylinder
slave cylinder
cap
bush
lever
spring
tube
pedal
it feels smoother but it doesnt seem quick enough when i give it some, the clutch feels fine it has a low biting point and the gears go in lovely its just there is a split second delay when the pedal is retuning to the top, i am quicker with my feet than the pedal is if that makes any sense.
if i just sit there and press the clutch and the let go of it it does seem to drag, is this how it should be or is there something else wrong with it?

Is there anyone out there that lives near swindon in wiltshire that i could come and see to compare pedals i don't want to drive it just see how fast its retuning please help i have only had the car 3 weeks and have been waiting since for the pedal to get sorted
i can get the gears in quite smoothly when driving fast but i seem to be reacting quicker than the clutch pedal is this normal
Please help me guys

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RE: Clutch pedal not returning properly again please help

Post by sonny » Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:40 pm

PM sent. I woudl take it back and get the to adjust it. I was going to say the pipe has split, but if they have already carried out the work, then it should be fine.
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Post by Mgbruce » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:40 pm

I had the same problems about 4 months ago, they replaced the clutch and all was ok.

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Post by Phil3103 » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:56 pm

What is the age of the car? Wasn't there any issue with the earlier cars whereby one of the pipe's diameter was too small thereby not allowing the pedel to return promptly when giving it some. Unlikely the standard tech would be aware of the update. I think the later cars had an uprated pipe.

May be worth asking them about it. Think there are some threads on here about it.

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Post by wellzieRS4 » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:59 pm

Thats what they have said the clutch might need changing but in the begining they said the clutch was fine, should it need changing its a 06 with 25k 1 owner the clutch does feel ok, audi main dealer this time i think.
when you had the same problem did you have the above changed first before the new clutch sorted it out?

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Post by wellzieRS4 » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:01 pm

Phil3103 wrote:What is the age of the car? Wasn't there any issue with the earlier cars whereby one of the pipe's diameter was too small thereby not allowing the pedel to return promptly when giving it some. Unlikely the standard tech would be aware of the update. I think the later cars had an uprated pipe.

May be worth asking them about it. Think there are some threads on here about it.
so say that has been changed

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Post by ArthurPE » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:09 pm

some cars (BMW M cars) have a one way restrictor/check valve-damper in the slave line (clutch delay valve)
it allows the fluid to actuate the clutch unimpeded
but upon release it restricts the back-flow to make the clutch engage more slowly to prevent shock to the drivetrain
some guys remove them, my MY2001 didn't have one...

not sure if the RS4 has one, but I would bet it does
http://www.zeckhausen.com/CDV.htm

if it's cold, and the fluid is thicker, it affects it even more
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Post by sonny » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:21 pm

wellzieRS4 wrote:Thats what they have said the clutch might need changing but in the begining they said the clutch was fine, should it need changing its a 06 with 25k 1 owner the clutch does feel ok, audi main dealer this time i think.
when you had the same problem did you have the above changed first before the new clutch sorted it out?
OK when i had my hose split, they replaced the clutch and flywheel. as it can be damaged, however this should have been identified when Audi carried out the work..is your car on warranty?
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Post by wellzieRS4 » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:38 pm

Yeah its got 12 months warranty from Lloyd mini in carlisle i have reported this fault to them the day after i got it, i didn't take it to Audi i took it to a Audi specialist called dialynx being in the motor trade myself a few people told me to take it there, thing is i don't think they have got a lot of experience with b7s and now i dont know if they are going to milk it now cos they paid them before they even done the job
I also had a e39 m5 and didn't have any probs with the clutch returning on that

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Post by wellzieRS4 » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:44 pm

Starting too wish i never brought the f**king thing i was blinded by the interior at the time

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Post by sonny » Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:47 pm

Mate take it back to the dealership and park it in the entrance and and lock it up, put a sing in the window saying don't buy from here...that will get there attention.

I did something similar, I refused to take my RS4 of the forecourt once as the front bumper was not aligned correctly, they denied it and said it was OK jokers, and i have written to Audi.UK regarding other issues I had with a certain dealership. again this was rectified as I refused to take car off forecourt. if your not happy then ask for your money back, tell them you have seeked advise from the CAB. aggressive tactics I know, but sometimes it take it to get through to there think skulls. RANT OVER.

Its a great car, don't let this put you off.
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Post by wellzieRS4 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:43 am

would do but its 400 miles away

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Post by Phil3103 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:10 am

I have found a couple of times that a call to Audi UK does the trick. You should be able to take it to any dealership albeit they are all different businesses.

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Post by ArthurPE » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:23 am

everyone is jumping to the conclusion that there is a problem of material substance, not perception
they replaced the ENTIRE clutch control system! it sounds like they are trying to rectify the 'problem', if tangible
master cylinder
slave cylinder
cap
bushing
lever/spring/pedal
tube/hoses

mine 'feels' different than other cars, it 'feels' like it has a CDV, as I described, I just played with it, you can press it with no resistance, but it eases back out...that appears to be normal operation...

quoted:
it feels smoother but it doesnt seem quick enough when i give it some, the clutch feels fine it has a low biting point and the gears go in lovely its just there is a split second delay when the pedal is retuning to the top,....

if i just sit there and press the clutch and the let go of it it does seem to drag, is this how it should be or is there something else wrong with it?


MAYBE, that's how it SHOULD BE!?
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Post by ^Qwerty^ » Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:31 am

Mine is going in next week for two days for much the same thing. In my case it can happen if the car is hot or cold, I had it on a trackday where the pedal remained on the floor which was quite alarming at the time - albeit the clutch had engaged and I continued to have drive from the engine, but I had about 1 inch of pedal travel, and it remained on the floor until I pressed it a few times, and then returned to normal operation.
I would also say that in most cases it happens when I do "spirited" gear changes, but I have had a few occasions where it has happened at what one would probably term as normal driving in a stop start traffic situation.

Will let you know how I get on, although finding a road you can do a quick gear change on is quite a challenge at the moment.

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