414bhp, four wheel drive and 6" of snow

Post by **MarkyMark01** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:44 am

What could possibly go wrong??????

Post by **^Qwerty^** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:48 am

It's amazing the amount of people who say to me, "you'll have no problems in that". We then have the disucssion about big fat (summer) tyres and how crap they are in the snow/ice and that 0x4 grip is still no grip.
I have much more fun in the good ladies Freelander with winter tyres on it

Post by **MarkyMark01** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:21 am

I just like pretending to be Hannu Mikkola!!!

Post by **P_G** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:33 am

4 wheel drifting even with 'fat summer tyres' is great fun and there is a surprising amount of grip. Where people go wrong is thinking 4WD will stop them quicker.

Post by **mark758** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:36 am

Didn't audi show the car driving up a ski slope at it's launch night? Did it have snow chains on?

Post by **sonny** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:37 am

Dip the clutch when breaking on down slops (yes that's right, coasting), it all in the clutch control lol

Post by **P_G** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:47 am

Easier than that, just anticipation and engine braking.

Post by **PetrolDave** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:47 am

P_G wrote:Easier than that, just anticipation and engine braking.

x2

Post by **sonny** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:53 am

mark758 wrote:Didn't audi show the car driving up a ski slope at it's launch night? Did it have snow chains on?

No snow chains used, just Michelin tyres.

Regarding the engine Breaking, if your engine breaking on ice, the kinetic energy will be transferred through the wheels and cause limit of adhesion to be reach. Dipping the clutch will limit the wheels slipping and applying light breaking I also agree with you that you need to anticipate far ahead, esp if approaching a junction. this technique as helped me a few times. obviously in a worst case scenario. however depends on what type car you are driving.

Post by **Porky** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:17 pm

I needed to turn around in the golf club car park and couldn't so just full lock, blip the throttle and was facing the right way on the spot...love it!

Post by **ArthurPE** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:04 pm

P_G wrote:4 wheel drifting even with 'fat summer tyres' is great fun and there is a surprising amount of grip. Where people go wrong is thinking 4WD will stop them quicker.

agree 100%

go: ~ the same
slow: no where close

Post by **ChrisCSL** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:17 pm

Would higher or lower tyre pressures help with grip in icey conditions?

Post by **P_G** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:19 pm

Higher, in theory less contact patch and more weight per square inch.

Post by **RS6chris!** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:58 pm

Had some good clean fun today in my baby....in the work car park...couple of blips to break the back end away and WAHHEYYYY...and the good bit is no damage/wear to the tyres>>>>HAPPY DAYS!!!!

Post by **sonny** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:07 pm

ChrisCSL wrote:Would higher or lower tyre pressures help with grip in icey conditions?

Well actually, deflated tyres should grip more, when 4x4 teams move across snow they do de-flate there tyres, just make sure you can pump them back up again.

like wise when in a car off road or in a mountain bike (Motocross up hill), deflate tyres to grip more.

However it is not recommended to use that technique in snowy condition like the UK has experienced.

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