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Manifold flap delete
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:36 am
by maizyboy
Anyone have experience of manifold flap deletion ? Booking mine for a carbon clean, getting EPC light regularly, thinking it might get the deletion kit while the manifold is off anyway. What's the feedback ?
Re: Manifold flap delete
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:28 pm
by Grandadg90
You will need a remap after though.
Re: Manifold flap delete
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:19 am
by maars
What’s the benefit of doing the mod?
Re: Manifold flap delete
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:53 am
by iconic78
More torque at the top end and you won’t lose the flaps as they known to come loose.
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Re: Manifold flap delete
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:24 pm
by maars
iconic78 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:53 am
More torque at the top end and you won’t lose the flaps as they known to come loose.
Ok. So how do they work normally?
Re: Manifold flap delete
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:15 pm
by Davidol
Is there a trade off? Lose of low down torque when removed?
Re: Manifold flap delete
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:46 am
by Rodney007
Just had mine done. During carbon cleaning they discovered one the the flap arms was broken. The plastic joint had fractured and is quite common to break which meant only one banks flaps where opening and the other was stuck about half way.
So they commonly remove them. ECU remap is not Required but recommended. ECU will not throw a code as the actuators still move but dont move anything.
They then close the holes with frost plugs.
I also had my primary and secondary cats removed and disabled and then a full ECU remap with dyno tune. All up I gained about 30HP but inxluded carbon clean, cats and deflap (with oil change and new plugs)
Slight loss of HP down low. Slight increase uptop.
Hope that helps
Re: Manifold flap delete
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:10 am
by iconic78
Rodney007 wrote:Just had mine done. During carbon cleaning they discovered one the the flap arms was broken. The plastic joint had fractured and is quite common to break which meant only one banks flaps where opening and the other was stuck about half way.
So they commonly remove them. ECU remap is not Required but recommended. ECU will not throw a code as the actuators still move but dont move anything.
They then close the holes with frost plugs.
I also had my primary and secondary cats removed and disabled and then a full ECU remap with dyno tune. All up I gained about 30HP but inxluded carbon clean, cats and deflap (with oil change and new plugs)
Slight loss of HP down low. Slight increase uptop.
Hope that helps
Did they remove the arms or just the flaps?
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Re: Manifold flap delete
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:19 am
by Rodney007
Arms and flaps.
Re: Manifold flap delete
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:12 am
by FaisalJ
The downside is that acceleration is lumpy until the car is warm. Feels like there's a misfire sometimes, but no issues once warmed up
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Re: Manifold flap delete
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:45 am
by Rodney007
Not for me? Maybe its ur car
Re: Manifold flap delete
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:50 am
by Covkiller
Mine is only lumpy for a few mins on cold start.
Re: Manifold flap delete
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:02 pm
by Grandadg90
Faisal, has your car been remapped.
Re: Manifold flap delete
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:00 am
by Rodney007
Flap remove will lower the cold start idle level. The cold start RPM pickup is mainly the flap positioning choking the intake. Which i confirmed with the tuner after the mod was done. Rpm on cold start only goes to 1200rpm
Mine doesnt have any lumps. Runs smooth cold or hot after flap delete.
Re: Manifold flap delete
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:08 am
by pule333
FaisalJ wrote:The downside is that acceleration is lumpy until the car is warm. Feels like there's a misfire sometimes, but no issues once warmed up
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I have that even with the flaps. Although I did remove separators
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