Exhaust experimentation

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Exhaust experimentation

Post by dougle_turbo » Sun May 14, 2017 8:02 pm

So my next project on the car will be getting the exhaust note correct. To do this I have decided to go down the 'modify the standard exhaust route'. The main reason behind this is because I want to keep the car as stock as possible, I want to keep the valves, and I like to do a little experimentation with these sorts of things. The plan is to remove the central resonator and try out straight through, H and X pipe and see which one I like the best.

To do this I have now managed to amass 3 standard exhaust systems (the Mrs is over the moon with the new 'garden ornaments'). I'll have each one made and then carry out a sound comparison. The winner will be the one that makes me smile the most.

I know that some of you have already done various versions of these mods so I'm happy to take any pointers. From what I've seen the X pipe is the mod which has the most variation on the design. From what I read this seems to be the correct way of doing it. Again any pointers would be much appreciated. Work starts in a weeks time.
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Re: Exhaust experimentation

Post by Sammyb349 » Sun May 14, 2017 8:55 pm

Looking forward to reading about the process and hearing the results!!
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Re: Exhaust experimentation

Post by FaisalJ » Sun May 14, 2017 9:08 pm

I love a good comparison test.

You have a great responsibility now though. "What's better - straight, a H or X?" Is one of the more frequently asked questions on here, along with "which tyres?", "should I carbon clean?", "brake discs are how much? Can't I just use a biscuit tin lid instead?", "can Mike Fish score me an ounce?", "what's wrong with BamBam?" and "what does Chunky's Mum look like?"

You can put this one to bed (the straight/X/H thing - not Chunky's Mum").

May I suggest a video at the end of this comparing the sounds in a variety of scenarios? Would be very interesting.


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Re: Exhaust experimentation

Post by dougle_turbo » Sun May 14, 2017 10:00 pm

FaisalJ wrote:
Sun May 14, 2017 9:08 pm
I love a good comparison test.

You have a great responsibility now though. "What's better - straight, a H or X?" Is one of the more frequently asked questions on here, along with "which tyres?", "should I carbon clean?", "brake discs are how much? Can't I just use a biscuit tin lid instead?", "can Mike Fish score me an ounce?", "what's wrong with BamBam?" and "what does Chunky's Mum look like?"

You can put this one to bed (the straight/X/H thing - not Chunky's Mum").

May I suggest a video at the end of this comparing the sounds in a variety of scenarios? Would be very interesting.


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No pressure then, I'd best get myself a go-pro or some other recording device!

And how is it that every thread on this forum features a mention of Chunky's mum? Perhaps BamBam can elaborate?
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Re: Exhaust experimentation

Post by SimonS4MTM » Sun May 14, 2017 10:19 pm

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Re: Exhaust experimentation

Post by jonytek » Sun May 14, 2017 11:12 pm

FaisalJ wrote:
Sun May 14, 2017 9:08 pm
I love a good comparison test.

You have a great responsibility now though. "What's better - straight, a H or X?" Is one of the more frequently asked questions on here, along with "which tyres?", "should I carbon clean?", "brake discs are how much? Can't I just use a biscuit tin lid instead?", "can Mike Fish score me an ounce?", "what's wrong with BamBam?" and "what does Chunky's Mum look like?"

You can put this one to bed (the straight/X/H thing - not Chunky's Mum").

May I suggest a video at the end of this comparing the sounds in a variety of scenarios? Would be very interesting.


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Re: Exhaust experimentation

Post by marc1 » Sun May 14, 2017 11:15 pm

FaisalJ wrote:
Sun May 14, 2017 9:08 pm
I love a good comparison test.

and "what does Chunky's Mum look like?"
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Re: Exhaust experimentation

Post by Rodney007 » Tue May 16, 2017 11:11 am

For me the stock exhaust with valves open has to be one of the best sounding v8 engine notes around.

I think the trick will be to enhance the stock valve open volume like 15-20% but maintain that deep throaty tone and not get that raspy thing happening that most people end up with.

Keen to see how you go!

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Re: Exhaust experimentation

Post by mister_g » Tue May 16, 2017 5:20 pm

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I'm interested in this too, what pipes exactly do you have in mind?

I was looking at these:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ECS-TUNING-AU ... #vi-ilComp
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Re: Exhaust experimentation

Post by dougle_turbo » Tue May 16, 2017 7:33 pm

mister_g wrote:
Tue May 16, 2017 5:20 pm
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I'm interested in this too, what pipes exactly do you have in mind?

I was looking at these:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ECS-TUNING-AU ... #vi-ilComp
Basically that (above) will be the H pipe set up. The fabricator will remove the centre resonator and then fabricate the H pipe section in the Shop.
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Re: Exhaust experimentation

Post by dougle_turbo » Tue May 16, 2017 7:37 pm

Rodney007 wrote:
Tue May 16, 2017 11:11 am
For me the stock exhaust with valves open has to be one of the best sounding v8 engine notes around.

I think the trick will be to enhance the stock valve open volume like 15-20% but maintain that deep throaty tone and not get that raspy thing happening that most people end up with.

Keen to see how you go!
From what I read the straight through and H pipe setups should do this, whilst the x-pipe tends to give a slightly more high pitched, exotic sound. Looking forward to the testing phase. Hoping to get the straight through and x-pipe done on Sat. My not have time to get the H done as well this weekend.
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2007 Phantom black RS4 avant - with added ceramics. Sold
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1990 Black Audi S2 (3B) - full engine rebuild. Sold
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Re: Exhaust experimentation

Post by maars » Tue May 16, 2017 7:54 pm

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Re: Exhaust experimentation

Post by chunky79 » Tue May 16, 2017 9:03 pm

dougle_turbo wrote:
Sun May 14, 2017 10:00 pm
FaisalJ wrote:
Sun May 14, 2017 9:08 pm
I love a good comparison test.

You have a great responsibility now though. "What's better - straight, a H or X?" Is one of the more frequently asked questions on here, along with "which tyres?", "should I carbon clean?", "brake discs are how much? Can't I just use a biscuit tin lid instead?", "can Mike Fish score me an ounce?", "what's wrong with BamBam?" and "what does Chunky's Mum look like?"

You can put this one to bed (the straight/X/H thing - not Chunky's Mum").

May I suggest a video at the end of this comparing the sounds in a variety of scenarios? Would be very interesting.


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No pressure then, I'd best get myself a go-pro or some other recording device!

And how is it that every thread on this forum features a mention of Chunky's mum? Perhaps BamBam can elaborate?
Cause bum_bums a hairy front bottom.

Has anyone on here got an RS4 that sounds like a yank V8 and not a rasping V8?
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