Carbon and not the good stuff!

4.2 V8 32v Naturally Aspirated - 414 bhp
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Carbon and not the good stuff!

Post by RS4-FTW » Sat Oct 01, 2016 5:26 pm

Hi folks newbie on the forum!,

Had my RS4 for a good few months now had it decated and non resonated - to date the best car I've owned, had it in to my local to get a carbon clean done and it was shocking how bad it was.

Just ticked over 90k rolling road before and after

Before 348.6 BHP
After 384.2 BHP

And up a bit on torque - only thought was it's at 384 Bhp and should be 440bhp is this normal? as most threads are up to about 410bhp after a carbon clean, not 100% that it has been mapped mind you here's some pics
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Re: Carbon and not the good stuff!

Post by rs4pat » Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:47 pm

The rs4 never was 440 bhp it's ment to be 420 not to meany make that without a remap

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Re: Carbon and not the good stuff!

Post by Huwbert » Sat Oct 01, 2016 7:04 pm

Cough: 414 bhp cough: :thumbs: or 420 ps.
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Re: Carbon and not the good stuff!

Post by RS4-FTW » Sun Oct 02, 2016 9:02 am

rs4pat wrote:The rs4 never was 440 bhp it's ment to be 420 not to meany make that without a remap
Sorry typo! 420 :bash:

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Re: Carbon and not the good stuff!

Post by Badman » Sun Oct 02, 2016 10:09 am

So none of them run 414bhp standard ?? Is that not a bit of a con ??

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Re: Carbon and not the good stuff!

Post by MikeFish » Sun Oct 02, 2016 10:46 am

They do if they aren't covered with carbon. Problem is that they need cleaning again soon afterwards so never stay at 414 for long.

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Re: Carbon and not the good stuff!

Post by MikeFish » Sun Oct 02, 2016 10:51 am

If you only have 384 after a carbon clean then most likely either you have a bit of a vac leak or it wasn't dyno'd properly (fans not big enough, bonnet closed, heat soak).
The starting figure also falls in line with this theory; 348 is not a normal figure for a car suffering from carbon, either there was another issue (such as vac) or badly dyno'd.

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Re: Carbon and not the good stuff!

Post by Badman » Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:35 pm

Forgive my ignorance but all the posts I've seen they say they only get 414 after a carbon clean and a remap ? Or have I missed something ?

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Re: Carbon and not the good stuff!

Post by MikeFish » Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:57 pm

Carbon clean and remap will get you about 420 to 425 ish bhp.

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Re: Carbon and not the good stuff!

Post by hector8 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:37 pm

Are 4wd rolling roads accurate tho??

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Re: Carbon and not the good stuff!

Post by RS4-FTW » Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:16 pm

Quite happy with the power but I think a remap is on the cards

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Re: Carbon and not the good stuff!

Post by harding » Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:30 pm

Just got mine back from carbon clean today. First time clean at 134.000km (83 263 miles).
Must say that was the best 1050euros spent ever!

..next week changing to sachs clutch and stertman stage 1 :) :)
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Re: Carbon and not the good stuff!

Post by Puggie » Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:21 am

hector8 wrote:Are 4wd rolling roads accurate tho??
A decent one will give you an accurate value of the power at the wheels. You may find the book figure is just the bare engine on an engine dyno with no ancillaries like aircon, waterpump and alternator to drive, these all sap appreciative power.

A rolling road is a tool for tuning and measuring if mod x made more or less power than mod y. Or getting a good number to brag with down the pub!

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