Oil catch can

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Oil catch can

Post by MarkV8 » Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:31 pm

Has anyone on here tryde using an oil catch can to reduce the recirculating oli gases causing the dreaded carbon build up in an Itempt to slow the proses down if so was u successfull ?

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Re: Oil catch can

Post by weekenny » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:31 pm

I think on these engines it's caused by valve overlap more than oil vapour being drawn in.

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Re: Oil catch can

Post by MikeFish » Sun Aug 28, 2016 12:24 am

It's been tried and made no difference.

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Re: Oil catch can

Post by MarkV8 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 1:00 am

Cheers guys I think that awnsers my question it's a shame that somethings not out thair for us guys to alumni ate thiss 20,000 mile issue .

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Re: Oil catch can

Post by audi_do_dat_den » Sun Aug 28, 2016 2:12 pm

The carbon or sludge build-up in the intake ports is due to the injectors being in the combustion chamber (direct injection) and not in the manifold port like most fuel injected petrol motors.
Also, as mentioned, these engines have a large valve overlap between induction and exhaust strokes, which isnt a problem while the engine is being thrashed (where it likes to be) as the airflow keeps the exhaust gasses from contaminating the inlet valves and ports.

The problem arises when youre driving the car normally, like around town and spending time idling..... then the build-up will begin.....

On an engine with the injectors in the ports, the mist of atomised petrol will tend to 'wash' the port during induction.... and no build-up will occur.
In turbocharged engines, the boost air briefly flushes the chamber during the overlap of exhaust and induction.

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Re: Oil catch can

Post by MarkV8 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:21 pm

I can see waire ur coming from a good read to tbh, as I'm quite new to the rs4 scene and I have heard these engines like to be revved, how hard can u rev these v8ts and will they stand the test of time with a good old blow out.

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Re: Oil catch can

Post by Surrey Sam » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:12 pm

Engines are strong and can rev all day long with good maintenance.

Water methanol injection is going to be the only method that can help keep carbon build-up down.
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Re: Oil catch can

Post by MarkV8 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:44 pm

Has anyone on here actually used a water meth injection kit, after reading I believe that it has to be set up with the stock mapping alterd, I can see the logick in thiss method I wounder wot the results. Would be like on an rs4.

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Re: Oil catch can

Post by Surrey Sam » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:15 pm

Have a read through Tony's thread linked below, it's the best detailed thread on here for WM injection. From memory he didn't need to remap the car to run it?

viewtopic.php?f=35&t=103679&hilit=methanol
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Re: Oil catch can

Post by MarkV8 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:40 am

Wow Surrey Sam that's one hell of a good read mate, he didn't get around to saying if it actually cleaned the carbon or kept it at bay I really hope tony picks back up with the thread and gives more pick of valves and manifold, if thiss is proven to work efficiently then I'm in bud.

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