Odd starter issue

[irishmike]

Was in for a service yesterday, Audi say two relays are dodgy. €170 to replace them.

Seem reasonable?

[audi_do_dat_den]

Id say go for it.
Theyre a pig to get to and if Audi will stick to that price, get them to do it.

[irishmike]

Cool hopefully that's it and no new starter needed.

[MikeFish]

My money is still on the starter.

[irishmike]

Really?

Hopefully the relays will sort it, just have to wait and see I guess.

[MikeFish]

Really?

Hopefully the relays will sort it, just have to wait and see I guess.

I thought so, then I read a thread on here earlier (Faisal maybe?) who said the relays seemed to have fixed his issue so maybe you have the same fault.

[irishmike]

Hopefully so!

[irishmike]

So yeah, relays did no use [DISAPPOINTED FACE]

Got them replaced 2 weeks ago, same issue yesterday and today..
Scan shows the same errors...ffs...Mike your prediction looks likely now...



OBDeleven data log

Date: 2016-06-17 18:10

    VIN: 
    Car: Audi A4
    Year: 2007

---------------------------------------------------------------
01 Engine Control Module 1

    System description: 4.2L V8/4V FSI ª
    Software version: 0090
    Hardware number: 8E1910560
    Long coding: 01040003180F0160

    Trouble codes: 
      P3088 - Starter relay Electrical error in circuit Upper limit exceeded
                  Intermittent
      P1923 - Check DTC memory of Engine Control Module (ECM) 2 Implausible signal
                  static



11 Engine Control Module 2

    System description: 4.2L V8/4V FSI ª
    Software version: 0090
    Hardware number: 8E1910560
    Long coding: 01040003180F0160

    Trouble codes: 
      P1411 - Bank 2, secondary air system Flow too Low Lower limit not reached
                  Intermittent

[MikeFish]

Sorry pal, I hoped I was wrong.

Had mine down now, starts so much better!
The starter relay error was the same as the one that I used to get. I didn't get the other errors you have there though both mention the engine control module so possibly related to each other).

[andyg72]

Agree with Mike since my starter was replace it starts a whole lot better and no issues since

[irishmike]

Booked in for Tuesday anyway, see what they say.

It's very seldom that it happens, but I guess that it may just get worse if I don't get it sorted.. hopefully they won't take the 7 hours that they quoted originally...

[irishmike]

Guys, can anyone confirm the part number?

I think it's 079911023D, but wanted to confirm before I go shopping.

[irishmike]

Got the dreaded call anyway, new starter required, they will cover the part, but I'll be charged the labour, 8 hours... €900

[MikeFish]

Can you challenge that? It is not an easy job but 8 hours is a bit severe!. If you drop the ARB & engine mount then it makes access to the starter motor much easier.

[irishmike]

I did challenge it all right, It's quite excessive.
They said they tech has done one before and that was the time taken.
I've no access to Autodata or the like to see the recommended time so am a bit limited in what I can say to them about it.

They did say if took less time they would adjust accordingly all right.

However if I take it somewhere else while they may take half the time, I'll have to pay for the part then, so may not end up much better off