Bugger, Intake Manifold Flap problems, EPC light on :(

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Bugger, Intake Manifold Flap problems, EPC light on :(

Post by Mr Footlong » Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:56 am

Hi guys

This couldn't have come at a worse time but at the weekend the EPC light came on at the weekend and didn't go away. Ran diagnostics this morning and had a couple of errors with the engine have come up. Fired her up to move her for the builders, she did sound a tad funny and the check engine light is now lit up as well as the EPC light. I cleared the codes after copying them out.

I had to drive the car to the office, got emergencies to deal with. EPC light came on immediately but the check engine has not come on yet. Codes are as follows -

Address 01: Engine Labels: 079-910-560-BNS1.lbl
Part No SW: 8E1 910 560 HW: 8E1 907 560
Component: 4.2L V8/4V FSI ª0080
Revision: --H03--- Serial number:
Coding: 01040003180F0160
Shop #: WSC 00191 264 15243
VCID: 63C57505A28DA92620-8036

1 Fault Found:
008213 - Intake Manifold Flap Position Sensor (Bank 1)
P2015 - 008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 141636 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 3092 /min
Load: 19.2 %
Speed: 42.0 km/h
Temperature: 29.0°C
Temperature: 19.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.970 V

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 11: Engine II Labels: 079-910-560-BNS2.lbl
Part No SW: 8E1 910 560 HW: 8E1 907 560
Component: 4.2L V8/4V FSI ª0080
Revision: --H03--- Serial number:
Coding: 01040003180F0160
Shop #: WSC 00191 264 15243
VCID: 63C57505A28DA92620-8036

1 Fault Found:
008224 - Intake Manifold Flap Position Sensor (Bank 2)
P2020 - 008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 141636 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 3093 /min
Load: 19.2 %
Speed: 42.0 km/h
Temperature: 28.0°C
Temperature: 19.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.970 V

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Will go searching as soon as I realistically have the time but any help gratefully received in the meantime thanks.

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Re: Bugger, Intake Manifold Flap problems, EPC light on :(

Post by mikep99 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:27 am

dunno if this helps but here's the links to the ross-tech website for those errors:

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.ph ... 015/008213

and this thread may help:

viewtopic.php?f=35&t=83649&start=15

only did a quick search so not too sure how helpful they'll be

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Re: Bugger, Intake Manifold Flap problems, EPC light on :(

Post by SRB » Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:12 pm

Sounds like my recent faults, I'm having a decoke as with 75k on the clock this is most likely reason sensors having faults I'm told

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Re: Bugger, Intake Manifold Flap problems, EPC light on :(

Post by Mr Footlong » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:52 pm

She was decoked by AMD Essex by the previous owner about 8k miles before I bought her (around 74k miles) and apart from the other half driving the car more than me, I use all of the rev range as much of the time as possible, no point in not driving it like you stole it. However, I hold zero faith in AmD's quality of work after the bloody awful remap job they did on our old S3 that MRC of course fixed.....

Thanks guys, I spoke to MRC earlier today and have bit the bullet. She is going in for a damned good deflapping, carbon clean again if needed, remap and 20k service. Oh, none of that cold quiet start rubbish though, I like making noise for the neighbours.
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"Taz"- C7 RS6 - MRC stage 2 745PS/1095Nm
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Re: Bugger, Intake Manifold Flap problems, EPC light on :(

Post by Grandadg90 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:05 am

If you are getting a code for both flaps bank 1 and bank 2, it would probably suggest a wiring issue. Or possibly a vacuum leak, which in turn will not turn the flaps.
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Re: Bugger, Intake Manifold Flap problems, EPC light on :(

Post by Rick_RS4 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:19 am

vac leak, possible 1 way valve or solenoid

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Re: Bugger, Intake Manifold Flap problems, EPC light on :(

Post by RIV » Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:35 pm

. Oh, none of that cold quiet start rubbish though, I like making noise for the
I could never understand that, best part is firing up the b7 when cold in the morning

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Re: Bugger, Intake Manifold Flap problems, EPC light on :(

Post by PetrolDave » Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:38 pm

RIV wrote:
. Oh, none of that cold quiet start rubbish though, I like making noise for the
I could never understand that, best part is firing up the b7 when cold in the morning
Because something just doesn't feel "right" about a stone cold engine with oil as thick as treacle on a cold winters morning starting and going straight to 2000+ rpm.
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Re: Bugger, Intake Manifold Flap problems, EPC light on :(

Post by Mr Footlong » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:06 pm

Ok, strangely enough I never thought about it like that, are the revs actually as high as that?

I have gone a little mad with the list for MRC now -

Deflapping, full carbon clean, 20k service, stage 2 remap, stage 2 manifold, gutted precats, Cold Airfeed kit, braided hoses all round.

Unsure about launch control/flat shift tbh, have had Launch Control in previous cars and felt it was too mechanically cruel on the cars to use it, have never experience flat shift so curious about it.
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23' C8 RS6 Vorsprung - 23' RS E-Tron GT Carbon Vorsprung

Gone:

"Brutus"- C5 RS6 Avant - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats - Wagner ICs - PSS9 - H&R ARBs - OZ Superturismo LM - C6 Custom brakes - HD RNS-E - Various other bits - 555PS/832Nm
"Taz"- C7 RS6 - MRC stage 2 745PS/1095Nm
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Re: Bugger, Intake Manifold Flap problems, EPC light on :(

Post by PetrolDave » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:17 pm

Mr Footlong wrote:Ok, strangely enough I never thought about it like that, are the revs actually as high as that?
With standard 090 Audi software yes they are on a cold day.
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Re: Bugger, Intake Manifold Flap problems, EPC light on :(

Post by marc1 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:46 am

Will be interested to hear the results after the MRC magic mate. How
Many miles since the last carbon clean?

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Re: Bugger, Intake Manifold Flap problems, EPC light on :(

Post by Mr Footlong » Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:36 am

She is on about 88k miles currently. The AmD receipt from December 2012 shows at "ENGINE DE-COKE" and the mileage was recorded as 73k, bought her at about 82k miles. While madam drives her more than me and is gentler on the car, I drive the car properly (aka lots and lots of foot to the floor) and use the revs whenever I possibly can :)
Current:

23' C8 RS6 Vorsprung - 23' RS E-Tron GT Carbon Vorsprung

Gone:

"Brutus"- C5 RS6 Avant - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats - Wagner ICs - PSS9 - H&R ARBs - OZ Superturismo LM - C6 Custom brakes - HD RNS-E - Various other bits - 555PS/832Nm
"Taz"- C7 RS6 - MRC stage 2 745PS/1095Nm
12' Cayenne Turbo, B7 RS4, S3, Cupra R, XJR, EVO VII, STI8,5,2&WRX, 106 GTI&XSI, other crap.

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Re: Bugger, Intake Manifold Flap problems, EPC light on :(

Post by marc1 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:04 pm

Will be interesting to see MRC's findings in this case. I'm sure stage 2 will equal Happy days.

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Re: Bugger, Intake Manifold Flap problems, EPC light on :(

Post by mustdash » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:51 pm

I've got exactly the same issues and am also booked in to MRC for a decoke. Mines in 81k and has never had it done!
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