Lwfw any one had probs

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Re: Lwfw any one had probs

Post by Jamiestanton » Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:29 am

sar wrote:i have ran a loba lightweight flywheel now for 20,000+ miles with zero problems.
i have never heard of any problems relating to rs4's running lightweight flywheels.





Yehhhh a normal person on here thank you for you info :biggrin3:
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Re: Lwfw any one had probs

Post by Rick_RS4 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:41 am

whats with all the '' i earn lots of money'' posts about.

i wansnt taking the piss out of your dyslexia, it was aimed at you asking our mate Dave in his vectra when mrc (specialists) would say if there was going to be a problem when you purchased it.

vent some aggression and spend some of that money

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Re: Lwfw any one had probs

Post by bam_bam » Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:54 am

Jamiestanton wrote:
watts6087 wrote:
Jamiestanton wrote:Sorry I am dislexic can not read to good or spell but I got a home a 20k rs4 a 7k quad bike along with other cars all payed for so don't think I done to bad .....just to think the teachers at school said I would be going now where in life so never judge a book by its cover and don't be a hater just want a bit of advice off you brain boxes off here
Fair play to you! U sound like my type of bloke! 
All thease key board warriors on here! If u seen them out in a pub 
They would be hiding under the tables!


Yes mate there defo some  train spotters on here and they all did good as school went to collage to get a good job and I bet I still earn more a week than thay do in a month
Errrrm, so if someone makes exactly the same money as you do but they can spell too, this makes them better than you, right?
What if they spunked £8k on a tricycle?
What about if they fit a clutch to a 'rarri 250 GTO while stood on their head, blindfolded, using a gold-plated Snap-On tool set?
Your logic flawed and you're stuck in the playground, next you'll be saying your dad can beat up my dad.
There's always someone that earns more than you do; there's also a far better chance they'll be understood while they're not shouting about it.
Now, take your medicine and go buy a spell checker... or don't.‎
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Re: Lwfw any one had probs

Post by Jamiestanton » Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:40 am

Rick_RS4 wrote:whats with all the '' i earn lots of money'' posts about.

i wansnt taking the piss out of your dyslexia, it was aimed at you asking our mate Dave in his vectra when mrc (specialists) would say if there was going to be a problem when you purchased it.

vent some aggression and spend some of that money


Forget it not bothered :biggrin3:
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Re: Lwfw any one had probs

Post by Jamiestanton » Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:47 am

Bam bam using big words I have no idea what your saying remember I can not read but I got loads more wonga than you and rick_rs4 and that's what keeps me smiling when you haters be trying to tel me to spell goodnight girls I am sure you got a shitty job to get to in the morning get some sleep I be gettin in to work about 10:30 cuz I am the boss ha ha love you x
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Re: Lwfw any one had probs

Post by The_Coat » Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:31 am

Reminds me of this: http://youtu.be/U8Kum8OUTuk
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Re: Lwfw any one had probs

Post by chunky79 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:51 am

Jamiestanton wrote:Bam bam using big words I have no idea what your saying remember I can not read but I got loads more wonga than you and rick_rs4 and that's what keeps me smiling when you haters be trying to tel me to spell goodnight girls I am sure you got a shitty job to get to in the morning get some sleep I be gettin in to work about 10:30 cuz I am the boss ha ha love you x
So you're a mechanic, and the boss? Why the hell do you post soooo many questions then? Perhaps you should start work around 8am like other hard working folk and you'll learn more :thumbs:
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Re: Lwfw any one had probs

Post by bam_bam » Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:32 am

Jamiestanton wrote:Bam bam using big words I have no idea what your saying remember I can not read  but I got loads more wonga than you and rick_rs4 and that's what keeps me smiling when you haters be trying to tel me to spell  goodnight girls I am sure you got a shitty job to get to in the morning get some sleep I be gettin in to work about 10:30 cuz I am the boss ha ha love you x
If you cannot read why are you on the forum, just for the pictures? I don't care if you don't make an effort but it's a bit silly on your part because you're the one that ends up looking like a <beep>. This forum uses English to communicate and your posts are barely legible, your money means nothing here, mate. Your muscles mean nothing here, mate. Your company or who's the boss mean zilch here, mate.
Your posts are all you have on this forum, and you cannot even bother to switch on a spell checker or give your post a quick skim read before clicking 'submit'. It says a lot about you, keep it up, I'm enjoying it, mate.
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Re: Lwfw any one had probs

Post by Jamiestanton » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:04 am

chunky79 wrote:
Jamiestanton wrote:Bam bam using big words I have no idea what your saying remember I can not read but I got loads more wonga than you and rick_rs4 and that's what keeps me smiling when you haters be trying to tel me to spell goodnight girls I am sure you got a shitty job to get to in the morning get some sleep I be gettin in to work about 10:30 cuz I am the boss ha ha love you x
So you're a mechanic, and the boss? Why the hell do you post soooo many questions then? Perhaps you should start work around 8am like other hard working folk and you'll learn more :thumbs:


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Re: Lwfw any one had probs

Post by Jamiestanton » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:06 am

bam_bam wrote:
Jamiestanton wrote:Bam bam using big words I have no idea what your saying remember I can not read  but I got loads more wonga than you and rick_rs4 and that's what keeps me smiling when you haters be trying to tel me to spell  goodnight girls I am sure you got a shitty job to get to in the morning get some sleep I be gettin in to work about 10:30 cuz I am the boss ha ha love you x
If you cannot read why are you on the forum, just for the pictures? I don't care if you don't make an effort but it's a bit silly on your part because you're the one that ends up looking like a <beep>. This forum uses English to communicate and your posts are barely legible, your money means nothing here, mate. Your muscles mean nothing here, mate. Your company or who's the boss mean zilch here, mate.
Your posts are all you have on this forum, and you cannot even bother to switch on a spell checker or give your post a quick skim read before clicking 'submit'. It says a lot about you, keep it up, I'm enjoying it, mate.



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Re: Lwfw any one had probs

Post by Spectre » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:15 am

WTF - all this 'cos the guy cannot spell particularly well but is proud to be making a decent living anyway? If he is paying his taxes, he has my respect. Sheesh - let's move on and get back to talking cars?

Am I wrong in thinking that the point of a lightened flywheel is to reduce the effort needed by the motor to build revs (since there is less weight to rotate) therefor making the motor rev more freely, with the possible downside being that revs drop faster too? (ie. losing speed faster) Thinking logically, I cannot see why would a lightened flywheel would cause any problems elsewhere. Perhaps the design of the engine relies on the fact that there is a certain amount of weight related resistance to balance the nature of the engines components? Thoughts?

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Re: Lwfw any one had probs

Post by neilparf » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:01 am

bam_bam wrote:Don't claim that you have to type that way because you're lexscyid. If you've got a 20k A4 and 7k tricycle, I think you can afford a spell checker, also, no one mentioned how you paid for your cars or what your teachers said about you at school, and let's be honest, we'd all judge the fcuk out of a book if it was written in "txtspek". innit. lol.
What the f***? The guy posts and then this...

Why advise the guy to use a spell check or re-read before he posts? Clearly, the ignorance prevails. Even if he had utilised a spell check pre-cursor to posting, he's dyslexic. It's not about being be able to spell it's about not having the ability to see chracters or words that make sense or are in the correct order. If he had managed to spell check, correct accordingly and post he simply wouldn't know that it was correct, or not. That's dyslexia for you.

Only take the p*** if your'e in the ball-park...

As for the fly-wheel issues, no idea. That one has been a little overshadowed...
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Re: Lwfw any one had probs

Post by chunky79 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:02 am

Jamiestanton wrote:
chunky79 wrote:
Jamiestanton wrote:Bam bam using big words I have no idea what your saying remember I can not read but I got loads more wonga than you and rick_rs4 and that's what keeps me smiling when you haters be trying to tel me to spell goodnight girls I am sure you got a shitty job to get to in the morning get some sleep I be gettin in to work about 10:30 cuz I am the boss ha ha love you x
So you're a mechanic, and the boss? Why the hell do you post soooo many questions then? Perhaps you should start work around 8am like other hard working folk and you'll learn more :thumbs:


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Re: Lwfw any one had probs

Post by coffey555 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:25 am

Well this is certainly better than the usual what wheel/tyre/led light threads.....
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Re: Lwfw any one had probs

Post by adsgreen » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:42 am

Spectre wrote:WTF - all this 'cos the guy cannot spell particularly well but is proud to be making a decent living anyway? If he is paying his taxes, he has my respect. Sheesh - let's move on and get back to talking cars?

Am I wrong in thinking that the point of a lightened flywheel is to reduce the effort needed by the motor to build revs (since there is less weight to rotate) therefor making the motor rev more freely, with the possible downside being that revs drop faster too? (ie. losing speed faster) Thinking logically, I cannot see why would a lightened flywheel would cause any problems elsewhere. Perhaps the design of the engine relies on the fact that there is a certain amount of weight related resistance to balance the nature of the engines components? Thoughts?

Mak.
The issue is that the flywheel is both an energy store and a damper.
The crank in our cars sees 4 pulses of acceleration every rotation.
You need the stored energy to keep the crank turning in between cylinder pulses otherwise the crank would slow down dramatically before the next combustion event due to other cylinders being compressed.
The damper aspect is that the flywheel also reduces the "peaks" of the acceleration events. So instead of the crank accelerating quickly the flywheel also smooth's things out.
Dual mass flywheel is a way of dealing with high compression engines - high compression engines like ours and diesels have proportionately larger acceleration (and deceleration) events. This would normally need a larger flywheel to cope but then this transmits a lot to the geartrain. So if the fly wheel is effectively split in two with one side connected to the crankshaft then other to the gearbox and linked with a spring damper. With the car in neutral the engine "sees" the whole flywheel mass so has a nice low steady idle. When in gear the engine "sees" only the inner mass and the transmission is damped with the outer mass meaning the engine is reasonably free to pick up speed and the transmission is damped to make it quiet.

Overall the DMF is a really elegant solution to the problem however as is pretty well documented, elegant but fragile.

A lighter single mass flywheel will obviously reduce the rotating mass of the system which has benefits. You don't want to go too light though as lighter wheels will accelerate faster but in a similar vein will also decelerate faster before the next "event".
But you do loose the gearbox damping which is why some get a degree of gearbox "chatter". You'll also need to adjust (probably by only a small amount) launch rpm as the engine will be more prone to stalling.

As for the crank? well you are putting more stress on the crank as the acceleration events will be less damped. As to say if will cause a failure? Hard to say - the crank is strong in our cars as are the bearings given the high rpm and with 8 cylinders the time between combustions is also lower than say a v6 or inline 4. I think there are now plenty of people using them for a long time without issue so I would say that it should be ok.

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