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Fitting the JHM oil cooler pipe upgrade kit FINISHED!

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:46 pm
by Audi Pardner
There's been a fair bit of discussion on the forum recently (again!) about leaking oil cooler pipes and the various options, including OEM replacement, the new Forge kit and the JHM pipe upgrade kit. For various reasons I've gone for the JHM option, and I thought it might be useful for those contemplating the repair if I did a post explaining the procedure from an amateur DIYer's point of view. I realise that for those who've done it themselves before it's not going to be of much interest, but for novices like me I hope it might be of some use. (Tap/click on the pics to enlarge them).

I started by jacking up the car, supporting it on axle stands and and removing the wheels. I then removed a number of screws that attach the undertray to the arch liners, including the 3 in each arch that fix the air duct on the undertray to the liner. Removal of the bumper is a bit fiddly, but there's a useful guide here: (http://www.euroaddiction.net/forum/b7-a ... moval.html) As there's quite a number of bolts, screws and nuts I got a piece of corrugated cardboard and pushed all the fixings into it in a numbered sequence and wrote next to them where they'd come from. Bit OCD maybe but saves frustration when you're refitting.
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I was expecting the nuts attaching the pipes to the cooler to be corroded so decided to undo the pipes from the engine first and remove the cooler with them attached, so I could get it all on the bench and see if I could undo the nuts without damaging the outlets on the cooler.

I started by undoing the 'P' clip that holds one of the pipes to the top of the oil cooler. The oil cooler is behind the power steering cooler which is attached to it by brackets with 4 nuts (2 on top and 2 below). The lower ones were rusty on mine and as they're mounted on rubber 'bobbins' for damping they were a bit tricky to remove; I used Plus Gas and they came off OK. You may have to carefully grip the bobbin with pliers to do this.
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Once you've pulled it free of the oil cooler it's important to suspend the PS cooler to avoid putting strain on the unions; I tied mine to the steel crossmember in front of the rads.
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The 2 pipes are attached to the block on the o/s of the engine. Once the screws are removed, carefully pull the pipes out of the housing and have an oil drain container, oil tray or similar on the floor to catch the oil. You don't have to drain the sump. I left the pipes to drain down for a while, then undid the 2 nuts holding the oil cooler on to brackets – there's one to either side behind a plastic shroud. Carefully pull the cooler forward and down slightly so it disengages from the studs, then pull the pipes through the rubber grommet in the housing behind the L/H air duct and remove the cooler complete with the pipes.

I was quite surprised how rusty the couplings on the pipes are as they didn't look too bad when the cooler was in place. All of them are badly corroded and one has a split (and they've only been on just over 3 years). I don't think it would have been long before the split one let go and either leaked seriously or detached itself from the pipe. Quite scary!
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I put the cooler in the vice and spent about half an hour with a Dremel-type tool (mine's a cheaper version from Machine Mart) carefully cutting through one of the nuts attaching the pipe to the cooler, stopping frequently to see if I could see the threads so as not to damage them.
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I then used a small steel chisel to prise the nut open a little. I was able to undo the nut easily, but my sense of achievement was short lived as the threads on the cooler outlet were quiet badly corroded and the cone inside was also in poor shape.
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I just wasn't prepared to risk re-using the cooler, so had to bite the bullet and get a new one (£590 from Aberdeen Audi; £36 cheaper than my discounted local main dealer price).

I did a trial fit of the new hoses this morning, but that's as far as I've got as work and other priorities are taking up weekends and, as the car is not used much in winter, there's no mad rush to get to finished. But I'll post an update when I complete the upgrade in a week or two and let you know how I get on.
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Re: Fitting the JHM oil cooler pipe upgrade kit

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:07 pm
by adsgreen
Nice write up and good pics.
Btw that's not OCD to use the cardboard - it's good practise :)
I tend to use re sealable sandwich bags but ip the cardboard idea is nice.

Re: Fitting the JHM oil cooler pipe upgrade kit

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:10 pm
by rocket1
i,m using the individual sandwich bags too! nice pics and thankfully i can stop worrying!! i have 2 creases in my front bumper bar that made me think has the car had an impact in the past. your pics have them also so assume there there for a reason (looked at my bumper to see if there was anything that would sit around them). i got mine off today too and 1 hose like new and 1 ready to let go anytime. jhm lines look good though!

Re: Fitting the JHM oil cooler pipe upgrade kit

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:29 pm
by CellDamage
Good write up so far, I wasn't even aware of the JHM kit when I bought Forge's late last year.

Did you not get done over by customs? Only thing that puts me off ordering stuff from the US.

Re: Fitting the JHM oil cooler pipe upgrade kit

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:57 pm
by R1RS4
Keep up the good work great write up

Re: Fitting the JHM oil cooler pipe upgrade kit

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:13 pm
by Audi Pardner
Thanks guys. There's a bit more about the JHM kit on the 'Yet another oil cooler question' thread. I got stiffed for £84 import duty, but someone's looking into a JHM group buy on the other thread. So far I've spent just over £1k, and as I'm fitting it myself there's obviously no labour cost. That's more than the Forge kit, but I preferred the JHM option. And both make a lot more sense than fitting another OEM kit that'll last only 5 or 6 years :audibash:

If you're lucky you might be able to salvage the existing oil cooler and just fit the JHM kit. :)

Re: Fitting the JHM oil cooler pipe upgrade kit

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:17 pm
by Rick_RS4
how have you spent over a grand? thought the pipes were about 500? is it the new cooler?

Re: Fitting the JHM oil cooler pipe upgrade kit

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:33 pm
by Audi Pardner
Yes, it was the new oil cooler that bumped it up. The breakdown is: JHM kit £354; Duty £84; cooler £590 ( from Aberdeen Audi; my dealer wanted £623).

Re: Fitting the JHM oil cooler pipe upgrade kit

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:53 pm
by Rick_RS4
did you buy the cooler incase you couldnt get the pipes off?

when you got them off why didnt you return it as the original was ok wasnt it?

do you have a pic of the oem pipes the end that joins the engine

Re: Fitting the JHM oil cooler pipe upgrade kit

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:05 pm
by Audi Pardner
Rick_RS4 wrote:did you buy the cooler incase you couldnt get the pipes off?

when you got them off why didnt you return it as the original was ok wasnt it?

do you have a pic of the oem pipes the end that joins the engine
No, I bought the new cooler after I'd removed the nut on the original cooler and realised the state of the outlet thread. If you click on the pic above of the outlet spigot it'll enlarge and you'll be able to see how knackered it is!

I'll take a pic of the other end of the pipe tomorrow and post it up.

Re: Fitting the JHM oil cooler pipe upgrade kit

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:15 pm
by Rick_RS4
i think it would have cleaned up with a die set, but better to be safe than sorry

Re: Fitting the JHM oil cooler pipe upgrade kit

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:25 pm
by Audi Pardner
I started to clean up the threads but there are a few chunks missing (not visible in photo) and the neck on the cone looks pretty bad. As you say, better safe etc. (plus I didn't want the ballache of taking it all apart again if it started to leak).

Re: Fitting the JHM oil cooler pipe upgrade kit

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:41 pm
by Audi Pardner
Rick_RS4 wrote:did you buy the cooler incase you couldn't get the pipes off?

when you got them off why didnt you return it as the original was ok wasnt it?

do you have a pic of the oem pipes the end that joins the engine
Here's a couple of pics of the connector at the engine end of the OEM pipe. Although there are two threads for each oil pipe where it connects to the block it's only secured by one screw. The JHM one has two per pipe; much better IMO (last pic).
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Re: Fitting the JHM oil cooler pipe upgrade kit

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:35 pm
by Rick_RS4
thanks, so on the block there are extra holes for the additional bolts on the jhm kit? wonder why audi didnt fit them with 2 each pipe?

Re: Fitting the JHM oil cooler pipe upgrade kit

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:30 pm
by Audi Pardner
Rick_RS4 wrote:thanks, so on the block there are extra holes for the additional bolts on the jhm kit? wonder why audi didnt fit them with 2 each pipe?
Yes, there are 2 threaded holes per pipe. Weird why Audi didn't use both having machined them into the block. I had to buy 2 additional screws for the JHM kit; they should really provide them with the kit!