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RS4 b7 DIY engine mount replacement guide

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:41 am
by TonyHayers
Don't.

Re: RS4 b7 DIY engine mount replacement guide

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:39 am
by sar
hahaha lol, bit of a nightmare eh?.

Re: RS4 b7 DIY engine mount replacement guide

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:48 am
by Graze
Did my B5 RS4 about 6 weeks ago. Took ALL day. Had to pull all turbo pipe work off motor, remove subframe and jack motor up relative to chassis. Had to fashion a special bent 13mm ring spanner and still struggled to get to the top nut on the mounts. Then had to try and put all the turbo pipe work back - very limited space and access.

I know it's not a B7 , but I suspect there is less room around the B7 motor and no ability to pull bits off

I think Tony is right!

By the way you will need a hoist and another jack to lift the motor - you could not do it on the ground or on jack stands ( without major difficulty)

Graze

Re: RS4 b7 DIY engine mount replacement guide

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:52 am
by TonyHayers
sar wrote:hahaha lol, bit of a nightmare eh?.
It's really easy to get the bottom support/console off from underneath, but that leaves you with one 13mm nut which is apparently impossible to get to. It's kinda nestled between the manifold headers.

4 hours of my life on my back and one bent 13mm spanner I'll never get back. Let the jokes roll in. :assflash:

Re: RS4 b7 DIY engine mount replacement guide

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:01 pm
by caldy
You only done the one side then???

Re: RS4 b7 DIY engine mount replacement guide

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:03 pm
by TonyHayers
Graze wrote:Did my B5 RS4 about 6 weeks ago. Took ALL day. Had to pull all turbo pipe work off motor, remove subframe and jack motor up relative to chassis. Had to fashion a special bent 13mm ring spanner and still struggled to get to the top nut on the mounts. Then had to try and put all the turbo pipe work back - very limited space and access.

I know it's not a B7 , but I suspect there is less room around the B7 motor and no ability to pull bits off

I think Tony is right!

By the way you will need a hoist and another jack to lift the motor - you could not do it on the ground or on jack stands ( without major difficulty)

Graze
Yeah, on the b7, you can *just* about see the 13mm top nut from above but can't get through from above between the headers even with my "special" 5-wobble-bars-connected-together device. I bent my 13mm ring spanner into all kinds of shapes but still couldn't get to it from underneath. I got the engine supported ok, with a jack and big piece of timber, raised it just enough to take weight off mount.

Gave up after 4 hours and booked into local indy who's quoted me 2 hours labour.

I'm intrigued to know how grizz did it last time! - but I wonder if the combination of work I had done (fitted downpipes) gave them easier access.

Btw I'm having to do it again because I bought an engine mount off a guy in Manchester. This new engine mount worked really well at changing the fault I had from "Short to ground" to "Short to plus". False economy!

Re: RS4 b7 DIY engine mount replacement guide

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:04 pm
by TonyHayers
caldy wrote:You only done the one side then???
It's just the left mount that's giving me fault codes.

Re: RS4 b7 DIY engine mount replacement guide

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:10 pm
by sonny
Do you have to do 4WA again if engine mounts have been disturbed?

Re: RS4 b7 DIY engine mount replacement guide

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:19 pm
by TonyHayers
sonny wrote:Do you have to do 4WA again if engine mounts have been disturbed?
Wouldn't have thought so, it's only the ARB thats unbolted from the mounts.

Re: RS4 b7 DIY engine mount replacement guide

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:24 pm
by WillRS
had my passenger side active mount done by MRC when it went up for the last wallet emptying exercise. Hours labour ? maybe hour and a half. didn't even get my hands dirty :)

however if its any consolation Tony on saturday I spent 3 hours yes 3 hours fitting some new pedals to the rs4. took the old ones off easy enough but could I get the new ones back on again - NO !!! did eventually after a lot of swearing and a small amount of sobbing !

you need to be behind the pedals or have xray vision to get them back on again. I would have given up but once they are off you are left with some small smooth metal pads which wouldn't be good to drive with..

Re: RS4 b7 DIY engine mount replacement guide

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:35 pm
by TonyHayers
WillRS wrote:had my passenger side active mount done by MRC when it went up for the last wallet emptying exercise. Hours labour ? maybe hour and a half. didn't even get my hands dirty :)

however if its any consolation Tony on saturday I spent 3 hours yes 3 hours fitting some new pedals to the rs4. took the old ones off easy enough but could I get the new ones back on again - NO !!! did eventually after a lot of swearing and a small amount of sobbing !

you need to be behind the pedals or have xray vision to get them back on again. I would have given up but once they are off you are left with some small smooth metal pads which wouldn't be good to drive with..
Well done for sticking at it!

I hate giving up, but at 11.30pm I had to concede I'd just wasted an evening. Fortunately, I hadn't done anything that wasn't easy to put back together :)

Re: RS4 b7 DIY engine mount replacement guide

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:47 pm
by sonny
TonyHayers wrote:
sonny wrote:Do you have to do 4WA again if engine mounts have been disturbed?
Wouldn't have thought so, it's only the ARB thats unbolted from the mounts.
Actually it was the subframe bolts i was thinking of.

Re: RS4 b7 DIY engine mount replacement guide

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:04 pm
by Rick_RS4
its a pain when things dont fo to plan, when i took the bumper off last the tip torx bolt snapped , came off easily enough the first few times i took it off, had to order part of the front of the car just for a snapped bolt,

i get

005491 - Left Engine Mount Solenoid Valve (N144)
P1573 - 004 - Open Circuit - Intermittent

every now and then was thinking of just doing it myself but is this side a royal pita too?

how much are the mounts?

Re: RS4 b7 DIY engine mount replacement guide

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:22 pm
by WillRS
about £150 ish

Re: RS4 b7 DIY engine mount replacement guide

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:43 pm
by TonyHayers
Rick_RS4 wrote:its a pain when things dont fo to plan, when i took the bumper off last the tip torx bolt snapped , came off easily enough the first few times i took it off, had to order part of the front of the car just for a snapped bolt,

i get

005491 - Left Engine Mount Solenoid Valve (N144)
P1573 - 004 - Open Circuit - Intermittent

every now and then was thinking of just doing it myself but is this side a royal pita too?

how much are the mounts?
The left side is the one that's gone on mine. The mounts are retail 188+vat but TPS gave me a small discount so it was 166+vat (£199 ish).