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steering help pls!
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:12 am
by malcolm300
hi, iv got a slight issues with my steering. when on full lock going left or right there is a judder as i move forward, anyone know what this might be!?
its just been to the stealers and had a full heath check and they didnt find anything??
cheers
Re: steering help pls!
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:35 am
by TimDogg
Think mine does this to - the RS4, especially when full lock and reversing does judder a little - feels like I'm scrubbing the front tyre somewhat.
Re: steering help pls!
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:36 am
by PetrolDave
TimDogg wrote:feels like I'm scrubbing the front tyre somewhat.
Which is exactly what's happening, the turn radius is not constant over the width of the tyres so the tread blocks in the tyres have to take up the difference. The effect is far more noticeable as the tyres wear and the shorter tread blocks have less movement.
Re: steering help pls!
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:54 am
by WillRS
yep I had / have the same issue. felt like the wheel was going to come off when you had to make a hard slow speed turn! Had new tyres fitted and the juddering dramatically reduced. Over time I guess it will come back as they wear down
(tyres needed changing anyway - i didn't change them just to resolve this issue!)
Re: steering help pls!
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:05 am
by pDkALO
Yup, as the others say - they all do that but it's puzzling the first time you notice it, usually when parking. It's just something that is likely to happen on a car with wide low profile boots, and on some cars it's more noticeable than others due to suspension & steering set up. In my experience it's relatively mild in the RS4 compared to some others (Porsches for example get it quite a lot).
Best cure is to spend as little time as possible parking, and as much time as possible on fast sweeping B roads!

Re: steering help pls!
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:11 am
by brn7y
DALO wrote:Best cure is to spend as little time as possible parking, and as much time as possible on fast sweeping B roads!

+1
Re: steering help pls!
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:26 am
by jaysrs4
I took this up with the dealer I bought the car from a couple months ago and with ought he was pulling my chain by saying its normal.
After loads of research its the case. Interesting design floor though.
Re: steering help pls!
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:41 am
by rocket1
yes mine do,s this too. only had the car 3 weeks and the first day i drove out my garage had to use full lock and noticed it. it felt like the car wanted to go straight on and was scrubbing the tyres. after searchng here its normal and apparently gets better as the tyres warm up.
Re: steering help pls!
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:17 pm
by Tile Diver
Yep mines does it too!!!

Re: steering help pls!
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:42 pm
by Noyjatat
+1 its normal
Re: steering help pls!
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:10 pm
by PetrolDave
jaysrs4 wrote:Interesting design floor though.
The thing is that it's not a design flaw - it's an inherent feature of wide low profile tyres.
One edge is following a tighter radius than the other, so something has to give...and with wide tyres the difference in radius is greater, and with low profile tyres the sidewalls are firmer; so with wide low profile tyres the tread blocks just have to "jump", it's just the mechanics of what you're trying to do.
Re: steering help pls!
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:27 pm
by malcolm300
well thats cleared that up cheers everyone

Re: steering help pls!
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:48 pm
by murph7355
PetrolDave wrote:jaysrs4 wrote:Interesting design floor though.
The thing is that it's not a design flaw - it's an inherent feature of wide low profile tyres.
One edge is following a tighter radius than the other, so something has to give...and with wide tyres the difference in radius is greater, and with low profile tyres the sidewalls are firmer; so with wide low profile tyres the tread blocks just have to "jump", it's just the mechanics of what you're trying to do.
Exactly. A lot of cars do it, especially high performance ones as they run wider rubber.
The times you're on full lock are likely to be minimal. Just ignore it

Re: steering help pls!
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:14 am
by 54Kab
- if it really bothers you, just make sure your tyres are never very low...

-expensive solution(!) ..but I've not noticed the issue when the tyre blocks are at their max.

Re: steering help pls!
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:25 pm
by vestax32
I too have wondered what this was, my mind is now at rest....