Cheap way into an RS4....

Post by **MB2** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:53 pm

Instead of laughing we really should inform the local traffic police, they have no insurance/insurance fraud as a minimum plus almost certainly a ringer/pair of ringers ?

Post by **HYFR** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:54 pm

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Post by **Ice_Coffee** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:01 am

I don't like to think myself a grass, I don't really care if the only infraction is a V5 mis-demeanour and would not want to get the seller in trouble if it is a gennuine conversion. If it is a conversion it is truly excellent and certainly has us enthusiats fooled, on the other hand if it is stolen, let him swing ! I would not be comfortable making the call to the police unless I had seen the car and I was sure.

Post by **lofty** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:31 am

Dvla shows the following:

The vehicle details for R5 YOW are:

Date of Liability 01 02 2011
Date of First Registration 24 05 2002
Year of Manufacture 2002
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 2976CC
CO2 Emissions 259g/Km
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Due to Expire
Vehicle Colour GREY
Vehicle Type Approval M1
This vehicle can be licensed at a DVLA Local Office without the V5C Registration Certificate
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £134.75
12 Months Rate £245.00

Post by **Ice_Coffee** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:49 am

It would be good if you could get him to take a picture of the battery in it's compartment, obviously we would be looking for signs of work if it is a conversion.

Post by **wolfgang** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:58 am

How does the car make 460bhp?

Post by **sonny** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:07 am

wolfgang wrote:How does the car make 460bhp?

He prob took a trip too MRC, which means he is not running his secondary air injection. Now that would be a good question to ask the seller lol

Post by **neckarsulm** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:22 am

I have had a good look at it and it's hard to fault, only thing is that it sits very low, poss even lower than SS+ which makes me wonder if it's on coilovers and is a 3.0 shell as Lengster suspects.
I can't think of a reason why the battery needs to be in the boot so it could still be in scuttle.

I don't like to think myself a grass, I don't really care if the only infraction is a V5 mis-demeanour and would not want to get the seller in trouble if it is a gennuine conversion. If it is a conversion it is truly excellent and certainly has us enthusiats fooled, on the other hand if it is stolen, let him swing ! I would not be comfortable making the call to the police unless I had seen the car and I was sure.

I don't like to think of the ruthless way in which these cars get stolen these days.
If there was no market for the stolen cars then there would be no theft.
Rest assured however that an innocent seller will be fine, there has to be good evidence that will stand up in court and I suspect with no direct link to any theft even if the parts were hot the seller would get away with an 'in good faith' plea

Post by **wellzieRS4** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:11 am

It has no door mouldings

Post by **adsgreen** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:40 am

Thing is the dvla only care if a converted vehicle scores more than 8 on their modified scale.
An engine change is 1, transmission, axles, suspension and steering all score 2 with body a 5.

In theory it could be argued the body hasn't been changed enough so would still probably score less than 8.

For the effort, time and parts required (even from a written off rs4) I'd wager it cost more than a second hand original.

Post by **adsgreen** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:26 am

If the plate isn't included then reasonable to ask what the original plate is

Post by **neckarsulm** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:26 am

It has no door mouldings

good point, every A4 should do

Post by **Ice_Coffee** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:34 am

what do door mouldings look like

Post by **neckarsulm** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:47 am

2/5ths of the way up the door from the bottom is a thin plastic body coloured strip running the width of the door. If you were to open the door against a flat wall, the back end of the moudling should make contact, not the door.

Post by **sonny** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:54 am

Also has the RS4 badge integrated in the back door mouldings. Good observation Wellziers4

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