TerraClean RS4 test (FAIL FAIL FAIL)

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Post by sar » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:26 pm

shame but i wasnt holding my breath, thanks anyway for trying tony.
terraclean sound like their full of <beep> to be honest.
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Re: TerraClean RS4 test: LIVE(ish)

Post by scaghead » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:29 pm

What a nightmare fella...not as bad as what happened to poor old eddy pee ..
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Re: TerraClean RS4 test: LIVE(ish)

Post by ArthurPE » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:48 pm

steam
use a medium pressure, wet steam injected into a engine running 2-3k rpm for a period of time
water won't hurt an engine, an engine PRODUCES water as a by-product
do a before and after borescope to determine how long to run it
should be safe, it will dissolve the carbon gradually rather than break it into chunks

steam is used to clean various types of engines/turbines, some while running
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Re: TerraClean RS4 test (FAIL FAIL FAIL)

Post by TonyHayers » Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:46 pm

Re. potential vac leak. The airbox flap is working (nice "kick" around 5500 rpm) and so are exhaust flaps - would that show that my vac system is all fine or could there still be leaks elsewhere. Need to get hooked up to VCDS tbh, see if any codes come up -anyone around Leeds got it?
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Re: TerraClean RS4 test (FAIL FAIL FAIL)

Post by ArthurPE » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:02 pm

TonyHayers wrote:Re. potential vac leak. The airbox flap is working (nice "kick" around 5500 rpm) and so are exhaust flaps - would that show that my vac system is all fine or could there still be leaks elsewhere. Need to get hooked up to VCDS tbh, see if any codes come up -anyone around Leeds got it?
might be the intake flaps, not th air filter box or exhaust flaps
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Re: TerraClean RS4 test: LIVE(ish)

Post by Timster » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:28 pm

ArthurPE wrote:steam
use a medium pressure, wet steam injected into a engine running 2-3k rpm for a period of time
water won't hurt an engine, an engine PRODUCES water as a by-product
do a before and after borescope to determine how long to run it
should be safe, it will dissolve the carbon gradually rather than break it into chunks

steam is used to clean various types of engines/turbines, some while running
Was this the principle of the system you were working on the in Bat Cave, Arthur.... way back when ?

Tony. Really well done for at least giving this a good attempt.
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Re: TerraClean RS4 test: LIVE(ish)

Post by adsgreen » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:45 pm

ArthurPE wrote:steam
use a medium pressure, wet steam injected into a engine running 2-3k rpm for a period of time
water won't hurt an engine, an engine PRODUCES water as a by-product
do a before and after borescope to determine how long to run it
should be safe, it will dissolve the carbon gradually rather than break it into chunks

steam is used to clean various types of engines/turbines, some while running
The tricky part is keeping the steam as steam until it reaches the valves.
You could disconnect the main vac line into the manifold as this represents the quickest and most direct way to the manifold.

To me the best option would be to replace the core plugs with some kind of fitting that allows a connection to a external "thingy".
The core plug holes are exactly in the right place to put whatever chemical you wish on the valves. The other advantage with steam is that the steam will be hot so the most effective and won't condense anywhere you don't want it to.
Whoa - imagine... if you have all the core plugs changed to this type of thing then you could easily hook up 16 small steam tubes and clean everything at the same time.

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Re: TerraClean RS4 test (FAIL FAIL FAIL)

Post by MaLicE » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:33 pm

Couldn't they unplug the pump at the tank fitting, I.e the pump power harness? Disconnect from the pump so no power goes through it and go that way around?

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Re: TerraClean RS4 test (FAIL FAIL FAIL)

Post by Rick_RS4 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:52 pm

theres an 8/10mm inlet on the bottom of the inlet mani just inder the rear of the throttlebody thats blanked off with a rubber bung, this could be used no probs.

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Re: TerraClean RS4 test: LIVE(ish)

Post by ArthurPE » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:56 pm

Timster wrote:
ArthurPE wrote:steam
use a medium pressure, wet steam injected into a engine running 2-3k rpm for a period of time
water won't hurt an engine, an engine PRODUCES water as a by-product
do a before and after borescope to determine how long to run it
should be safe, it will dissolve the carbon gradually rather than break it into chunks

steam is used to clean various types of engines/turbines, some while running
Was this the principle of the system you were working on the in Bat Cave, Arthur.... way back when ?

Tony. Really well done for at least giving this a good attempt.
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Re: TerraClean RS4 test: LIVE(ish)

Post by ArthurPE » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:58 pm

adsgreen wrote:
ArthurPE wrote:steam
use a medium pressure, wet steam injected into a engine running 2-3k rpm for a period of time
water won't hurt an engine, an engine PRODUCES water as a by-product
do a before and after borescope to determine how long to run it
should be safe, it will dissolve the carbon gradually rather than break it into chunks

steam is used to clean various types of engines/turbines, some while running
The tricky part is keeping the steam as steam until it reaches the valves.
You could disconnect the main vac line into the manifold as this represents the quickest and most direct way to the manifold.

To me the best option would be to replace the core plugs with some kind of fitting that allows a connection to a external "thingy".
The core plug holes are exactly in the right place to put whatever chemical you wish on the valves. The other advantage with steam is that the steam will be hot so the most effective and won't condense anywhere you don't want it to.
Whoa - imagine... if you have all the core plugs changed to this type of thing then you could easily hook up 16 small steam tubes and clean everything at the same time.
get the engine up to temp and get the steam very hot and it will not be a problem
I planned on using a 1/4" SS tube slid under the MAF hose clamp
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Re: TerraClean RS4 test (FAIL FAIL FAIL)

Post by TonyHayers » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:14 pm

MaLicE wrote:Couldn't they unplug the pump at the tank fitting, I.e the pump power harness? Disconnect from the pump so no power goes through it and go that way around?
Yeah maybe - I'd been waiting for a cpl hrs by then so wasn't confident in having them mess about with anything else.
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Re: TerraClean RS4 test (FAIL FAIL FAIL)

Post by Youngben » Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:24 pm

confused the car does run with the fuse for the fuel pump taken out? you taken the one out behind the pannel next to the steering wheel? i know this because i did the same when i went on holiday and ran the car until it ran out of fuel in the lines.
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Re: TerraClean RS4 test (FAIL FAIL FAIL)

Post by adsgreen » Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:43 pm

Hah yeah - does sound like they pulled the wrong fuse !

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Re: TerraClean RS4 test (FAIL FAIL FAIL)

Post by Youngben » Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:12 pm

saw this on wheeler dealers over Christmas period and wandered if it would work didn't realize this thread was about the same stuff!

http://youtu.be/wiViPKIoG68
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