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Post by Sims » Fri May 14, 2010 2:43 pm

ArthurPE wrote:talk about debunked

this is foisted on us as being from Audi

it is NOT from Audi or anybody who works for Audi
So this person who has been a reliable source of information on Audi for 6 years+ is nothing to do with Audi according to art.
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Post by Sims » Fri May 14, 2010 2:44 pm

ArthurPE wrote:
Audi has NEVER acknowledge deposts as a power loss issue...
If you are stating otherwise I will ask them.......again
art, however, has a hotline to Audi. :lol:

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Post by ArthurPE » Fri May 14, 2010 2:59 pm

Sims wrote:
ArthurPE wrote:
Audi has NEVER acknowledge deposts as a power loss issue...
If you are stating otherwise I will ask them.......again
art, however, has a hotline to Audi. :lol:
nope, I just don't offer lies as truth...repeatedly

Audi and I do share one thing:
'Truth in Engineering'
everything else (as relates to technical matters) is wives tales, hearsay, misleading 'I heard somewhere' or 'I feel' and generally BS

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Post by Sims » Fri May 14, 2010 3:16 pm

ArthurPE wrote:
Audi and I do share one thing:
'Truth in Engineering'
so will you post Audi's reply & truth on this forum?

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Post by ArthurPE » Fri May 14, 2010 3:21 pm

Sims wrote: so will you post Audi's reply & truth on this forum?
I am not in a position to publish information for Audi since I do not work for them...there is a disclaimer on documents for a reason...

unlike others who profess to work for Audi and proffer bald faced lies as corporate fact...

but I got an idea, really crazy one, write them youself and ASK THEM!!! :lol:

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Post by Sims » Fri May 14, 2010 3:38 pm

ArthurPE wrote:
Sims wrote: so will you post Audi's reply & truth on this forum?
I am not in a position to publish information for Audi since I do not work for them...there is a disclaimer on documents for a reason...

unlike others who profess to work for Audi and proffer bald faced lies as corporate fact...

but I got an idea, really crazy one, write them youself and ASK THEM!!! :lol:
So will you give us a detailed explanation of what Audi NA say to you. Is it possible that carbon buildup is not a US problem?

I will write to Audi when I'm ready and have gathered all the information I need.

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Post by pippyrips » Fri May 14, 2010 3:41 pm

ArthurPE wrote:let me be clear:

you are saying deposits cost 100 HP? and can't be felt?
and yet when cleaned members claim dynos show +20HP, they can feel it?
can't fell -100HP
can feel +20 HP
deposits cost 100HP?
deposits cost 20HP?
lot of contradictions in there, lol
pippyrips wrote: From what i have heard & read, no.

Just picking up on an early quote - 'my car doesn't feel like it's lost power'.

There have been members on here who have driven round in complete ignorance to the fact they have been over 100bhp down [b](non carbon related)[/b] as the power loss happened over time.

Just like getting old, it’s not until you look at old pictures of yourself you realise you are deteriorating!
Not quite Art, read it again...

I was merely stating it's very hard to notice gradual decline or improvement over a prolonged period of time ;)

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Post by scaghead » Fri May 14, 2010 6:31 pm

Sims wrote:
ArthurPE wrote:
Sims wrote: so will you post Audi's reply & truth on this forum?
I am not in a position to publish information for Audi since I do not work for them...there is a disclaimer on documents for a reason...

unlike others who profess to work for Audi and proffer bald faced lies as corporate fact...

but I got an idea, really crazy one, write them youself and ASK THEM!!! :lol:
So will you give us a detailed explanation of what Audi NA say to you. Is it possible that carbon buildup is not a US problem?

I will write to Audi when I'm ready and have gathered all the information I need.
sims most of your posts today have been a bit tetchy, had a crap day at work or is it time of the month related

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Post by ArthurPE » Fri May 14, 2010 7:16 pm

Sims wrote: So this person who has been a reliable source of information on Audi for 6 years+ is nothing to do with Audi according to art.
not according to me...

I forwarded the link to Audi
they indicated he does not work for them, speak for them and that is not information from them...

I can't make it any clearer than that...

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Post by ArthurPE » Fri May 14, 2010 7:19 pm

Sims wrote:So will you give us a detailed explanation of what Audi NA say to you. Is it possible that carbon buildup is not a US problem?

I will write to Audi when I'm ready and have gathered all the information I need.
it would be impossible for the same engine, on the same fuel, to not have deposits only because of geographic location...
isn't that a bit silly?
they all have deposits
deposits don't cost power due to Q loss or timing <beep>...

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Post by Sims » Fri May 14, 2010 9:29 pm

ArthurPE wrote:
not according to me...

I forwarded the link to Audi
they indicated he does not work for them, speak for them and that is not information from them...

I can't make it any clearer than that...
According to me it is.. That person posted on an RS forum, and has been doing so for many years as the voice of Audi.

As you said your only link with Audi is that of a customer, and of course you would never have proof of what Audi NA told you.

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Post by Sims » Fri May 14, 2010 9:36 pm

ArthurPE wrote:
it would be impossible for the same engine, on the same fuel, to not have deposits only because of geographic location...
isn't that a bit silly?
they all have deposits
deposits don't cost power due to Q loss or timing <beep>...
Silly? Let's determine that at the end.

It is the same fuel? Is it the same emmission controls? Is it the same everything. Usually manufacturers don't go into the US because of the stricter rules and need for volume to justify the investment to cope with the changes.

I recall you mentioning DRC was hardly an issue in the US, but it is here in the UK so maybe there are differences.

If they do have the same deposits, I am curious why the debate has only been raging in the other English speaking countries. Care to explain that?
Have you some links to some US Audi forums?

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Post by ArthurPE » Fri May 14, 2010 10:19 pm

Sims wrote: According to me it is.. That person posted on an RS forum, and has been doing so for many years as the voice of Audi.

As you said your only link with Audi is that of a customer, and of course you would never have proof of what Audi NA told you.
according to Audi, he does not work for them...
he says he does not work for Audi, he has 'contacts'
Audi says that statement is not issued by them, and is not accurate...

all you have to do is ask them...

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Post by ArthurPE » Fri May 14, 2010 10:23 pm

silly at the begining and the end...
same fuel (at least between the UK and USA and most of Europe)
same software, same emissions
actually the USA is less stringent, even California, than Europe
hence Audi essentially building 'world cars'
the differences: usually lighting and some safety reinforcement, engine is identical...

DRC is not an issue, failure rate is on the order of 1%, the same as any other system of similar complexity....not 'every car'

the debate is 'raging' in US forums, but as far as I can tell, not Germany
I attribute that to their higher sophistication when it comes to all things cars...

Sims wrote: Silly? Let's determine that at the end.

It is the same fuel? Is it the same emmission controls? Is it the same everything. Usually manufacturers don't go into the US because of the stricter rules and need for volume to justify the investment to cope with the changes.

I recall you mentioning DRC was hardly an issue in the US, but it is here in the UK so maybe there are differences.

If they do have the same deposits, I am curious why the debate has only been raging in the other English speaking countries. Care to explain that?
Have you some links to some US Audi forums?

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