Dectane LED's Problems

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Re: Dectane LED's Problems

Post by ArthurPE » Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:50 pm

PetrolDave wrote:
adsgreen wrote:It's not the speed as such but the way they start up.
Ahh, that's not what you said.
adsgreen wrote:On a cold start the DIS is looking for very specific bulb activation behaviour and LED's trip this. After starting the DIS seems to be more forgiving.
Conventional filament bulbs are very low resistance on start up when the element is cold, as they warm up to their running temperature the resistance increases - that's why if you measure the resistance of a cold bulb and do the P=V squared over R calculation it appears to be a much higher wattage than it actually is.

LEDs normally have as high as possible a parallel resistor (to minimise heat and energy waste) and if this simulates the resistance of a warm bulb and not the cold resistance that will trigger the bulb failure warning.

as it heats up impedance increases...when cold nothing more than a coil (an inch or so) of wire, no resistance
it's not so much the inductance in this case but the thermal reaction of a tungsten filiment...proportional to temperature

the impedance Z of an inductor = jwL
j = sq rt -1
w = 2 Pi f (f = frequency)
l = inductance value, based on turns/windings, etc.

so as freq increases so does impedance, a cap reacts the exact opposite
since a car uses DC (0 freq) inductance is zip in a DC lamp filiment coil
a resistor is insensitive to freq (for normal ranges)

are you an EE?
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Re: Dectane LED's Problems

Post by PetrolDave » Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:07 am

ArthurPE wrote:are you an EE?
Yes, Chartered Electrical Engineer since 1978.
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Re: Dectane LED's Problems

Post by ArthurPE » Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:19 pm

PetrolDave wrote:
ArthurPE wrote:are you an EE?
Yes, Chartered Electrical Engineer since 1978.
all righty! twin brother, different mothers :D
same here, since 1988 (we call it a registered or professional engineer, PE)
did 4 years in the Army (infantry, not engineering related), then the 4 years of required post grad experience to test and get licensed
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Re: Dectane LED's Problems

Post by edge » Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:14 pm

My set just left Germany, recon I can live with this issue...... I hope, they do look smashing!

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Re: Dectane LED's Problems

Post by DazN » Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:44 pm

Since posting this mine haven't flagged the error again. I don't have auto lights but I have tried to cause the error by switching lights on before putting key in / starting car etc, etc. Can't seem to get it to error again!

Very happy with the lights though, they look superb, especially with my front LED DRL and sides too :-)
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Re: Dectane LED's Problems

Post by alex020869 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:17 pm

edge wrote:My set just left Germany, recon I can live with this issue...... I hope, they do look smashing!
Edge, when did you order yours? I ordered mine on Sunday but got an email in German saying they couldn't give me a delivery date for my order :(

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Re: Dectane LED's Problems

Post by edge » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:46 pm

alex020869 wrote: Edge, when did you order yours? I ordered mine on Sunday but got an email in German saying they couldn't give me a delivery date for my order :(
Alex
Ordered on the 19th and shipped on the 27th, just checked the tracking and there on-route from Germany as we speak!

inna.norinska@dectane-group.com is the contact I was emailing in there before about the order.

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Re: Dectane LED's Problems

Post by alex020869 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:49 pm

edge wrote:
alex020869 wrote: Edge, when did you order yours? I ordered mine on Sunday but got an email in German saying they couldn't give me a delivery date for my order :(
Alex
Ordered on the 19th and shipped on the 27th, just checked the tracking and there on-route from Germany as we speak!

inna.norinska@dectane-group.com is the contact I was emailing in there before about the order.
Cheers mate. Will keep that contact in mind.

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Re: Dectane LED's Problems

Post by P_G » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:47 am

It appears very dependent on which ones you order, mine took over a month to arrive after being told that they weren't in stock when on the website when I placed my order and paid they were. Comms were good however.

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Re: Dectane LED's Problems

Post by alex020869 » Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:08 am

P_G wrote:It appears very dependent on which ones you order, mine took over a month to arrive after being told that they weren't in stock when on the website when I placed my order and paid they were. Comms were good however.
That's not too good to hear. Mine weren't in stock either so looks like it could be a long wait :thumbsdown:

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Re: Dectane LED's Problems

Post by edge » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:47 pm

just got a call, so there on route to the house ;)

Its the smoke/red ones

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Re: Dectane LED's Problems

Post by adsgreen » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:04 pm

edge wrote:just got a call, so there on route to the house ;)

Its the smoke/red ones
they are the ones I like - piccies when on the car!

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Re: Dectane LED's Problems

Post by edge » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:13 pm

will do, also by black front and rear rings arrived today!

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Re: Dectane LED's Problems

Post by edge » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:54 am

Well this morning I had the same issue, fog light failed and once I turned them off and on the issue was gone.....

Drove to work and then tested them again and no issue..... will keep you posted!

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