Summons on the way for allegedly texting

[no_RS]

Did you see if he came in a marked police car? I would check on whether the visit is recorded, if the visit is on the record and straight you should probably talk to a solictor for advice. If someone is going around impersonating a copper the cops should at least know.

[Outtlaw]

Sounds iffy to me, just be carefull with your car keys and home security, and then wait to see if anything comes of it. If really worried go to the cops and have a chat with them?

[yorkie]

Not difficult to get hold of a fairly authentic looking uniform - just look at some of these strippers who turn up dressed as police women

Whole thing sounds very dodgy to me, if he had your details I would have expected him to start the conversation with "are you John William Smith" for instance as he should already know your name.

I know of someone who was stopped for allegedly speeding by an off duty police officer in his own car, a complaint was made to the Chief Constable and the guy was severly reprimanded.

If as I suspect he wasn't even a real policeman you may want to increase your home security as Outlaw says.

I would also contact the police and let them know, worse case scenario if he was real is you will get the summons he already told you you would be getting. Did he leave you with a ticket? - I'm sure he should have.

[approved]

lots of conjectures and what ifs here.

the fact is if someone observes you driving without due care and attention, then you can be prosecuted, the cirumstances and number of witness's would be the desciding factor with the CPS moving it forward.

certain offences require physical proof, i'e speeding, parking offences, but driving without due care/dangerous driving can be proven through witness testimony, in your case, two police officers.

i would honestly just wait and see what turns up.

i suspect nothing, but if it does, take the relevant legal advice.

i'm pretty confident you cant be prosecuted for using your phone after the event, irrespective of witness statements...you have to be caught bang to rights

[yorkie]

Sorry but this sounds a load of b**llocks to me.

Call the police and ask them to confirm the incident.

I think you are going to be turned over sometime soon.

Take care.

[chemical-ali]

NO, No, NO!!!!

Genuine Fuzz : No proof of any kind that you have been doing anything wrong, they have no case. You have 14 days for them to issue you a NIP or summons etc. If they do, go to court! What proof do they have of wrong doing? They thought they saw you looking down at something whilst you were driving? How can you tell the directions of somebody's pupils whilst they were squinting at any distance through glass and metal? Did you swerve, was your driving eratic, were you going too slow/fast, did you make a call or text, do you have a legal (check before admitting) hands free, was it sunny (reflection of light off glass) was it raining (blurring of image through water droplets), was it dark (x ray vision?)?????? No case - any lawyer would rip them to shreds if their legal team were stupid enough to take it anywhere.

Your details on his hand - he wrote them whilst he was driving? Was he the driver? If so, he can drive, observe, write and assess a criminal activity simultaniously? If he was the passenger, why did he not use his notebook and if he was in a hurry he couldn't write and observe so not two witnesses just one whilst the other scribbled on his hand. So no written records!!! Its crap and if it were me I would do them for harrassment.

Not Fuzz: Lock doors, hide keys, check insurances are all up to date and covered. And report it!

[lengster1]

I was NOT using my phone in any way,my neighbour said he"d seen the "copper" marching past his house and head to mine and a few minutes later another one was checking my car whilst i was inside my house being questioned,so it looks like they may be genuine.I dont understand why only one knocked and came in the house,they usually do thing in pairs yeh? My neighbours impression of the coppers mood was the same as mine,the supposed incident was 7 hours earlier in the day!!! The whole way he tackled it wasnt right it was as if he hadnt done it before,he was asking me if i had been on this particular road as i led him through my front room with my back to him,by the time he left i was gobsmacked and wondering what the hell went on there? He has told me i would be summonsed but for what i dont know?Im taking my lad out in the morning and then im off into a station to get to the bottom of it,theres far too many things that arent right about the whole thing,chemical ali has raised some very valid ones that i was already pondering myself

[Contigo]

Where are you based Lengster?

This sounds well iffy, why wouldn't they just stop you at the time? I was also led to believe that if you are guilty of something it's there job to prove that you were actually doing that thing! ie phone records at the time of the incident.

[Contigo]

Oh and a mate of mine was done by an off duty officer so it's posible to do it.

It involved him in an M3, blasting past off duty copper, copper sees him and take reg, follows him to his house and then knock on his door. Brethalyses him and he's just over the limit. Mate tried to claim he downed a pint of ale as soon as he got in but it didn't stand up in court and has banned for DUI for a year.

[jwotdia4]

I'm sorry, but they don't have a chance in hell. They saw nothing have no evidence, the burden of proof is on the BiB and they have no evidence. Even an allegded speeding offence, ie two BiB is call looking at calibrated speedo has more legs!

Do nothing and say nothing, case closed.

On the more sinister front, watch out/be careful..

[A20LEE]

sounds like the officer has taken offence to your person and wants to use his badge to drag you down to his level or put the shits up you. I'd definately speak to someone at the police station about his conduct and you'll know for sure.

[sfrs4]

this sort of thing really pi$$'s me off, how can an officer of the law stand up in court and say he saw you using a "hand held communication equipment". and the court will take his word, policemen are people just like you and me, and they can lie just like us too. so your going to be fu~ked over by the law unless you have loads of money. the least you can do is try to get a statement written up by a solicitor with what you have told us about his attitude and the written by pen on his hand ect, and you want to get some proper legal advice, go and see c,a,b or get a lawer with one of those free hour's consultation.

[P_G]

Somthng is definitely not right about the method that this matter has been taken up with you. Usually from what I remember in Specials regular officers have to go in pairs to see an individual for them to coroborate the context of the conversation that is had with the suspect in domestic circumstances.

As to some of the other points raised, off duty officers can still make arrests and pull you over, I have been pulled over by an off duty officer when he didn't like the way I was driving. Also, the Police record incidents against you / car without pulling you over.

When I was given a producer a couple of years ago again for an officer who suspected I was speeding, (although how he ascertained this I will never know because he wasn't in his car at the time, on the other side of the road and managed to get in his car, do a U-Turn and stop me in a residential area all within 600 yards of road) he did a PNC and on my record was an incident two year previous when an area car on the opposite side of the carriageway suspected I was speeding and the put it against my record card! They also then started referring to the fact that I was no stranger to speeding because I had been banned for a year for speeding back in 1997, 10 years ago!

Wholly inappropriate.

[Contigo]

What was the outcome mate?

[lengster1]

Outcome was good mate,I took onboard everyones views and talked to a few friends in the job,wrote a letter explaining what occured and the manner in which it occured,was called by a senior officer for clafication and a bit more of an insight into it,he decided it warranted me taking it further and gave me some options,i decided on resolution were the officer is asked to answer my concerns/complaint by his senior officer and i will be relayed his responce,the day before was to drop off the signed resolution form i recieved a phone call from the officer in questions superior,he said on this instance they would not be taking it further due to an administration technicality but they could if they wanted to!! I knew that the senior proffesional standards officer had been in touch with him that day so the timing was ahem a coincidence perhaps? Or perhaps its not the first time its happened with this officer,apparently 3 complaints in a year stops promotion etc i chose the lesser of my options to deal with mainly to give feedback on his shocking manner and attitude,im no angel but im not rolling over to take points for something i didnt do.All the other officers i dealt with were superb just wish they were all like that!