How often do you get your RS4 serviced??

[P_G]

It's at your discretion by the sounds of things. Some elements will last an AVS like air filter, plugs etc, oil perhaps not so change it every 5-10k miles and change the rest at standard AVS?

[approved]

why not just follow the guidelines of the manufacturer?

[psg001]

why not just follow the guidelines of the manufacturer?

thats interesting, wonder how often audi recommend change of oil. If not at the right intervals they would get hit with a few bills covered by 3yr manufacturers warranty, esp seeing as some of the guys on the other thread have put 30-50,000 miles on their 3 yr old RS4's

[PetrolDave]

If anything serious were to happen, just take the car back, get a new engine under warranty!

Many of us are now out of manufacturers warranty, and even though some of us have purchased the extended Audi warranty I'm not convinced that would cover a new engine after 4, 5 or more years.

Anyway, prevention is always better than cure.

why would your engine not be covered?

Have you ever known an extended warranty FULLY cover the cost of such an expensive engine? I very strongly suspect that the best you would get is a contribution towards the cost of a new engine, unless you could show that there was a manufacturing or assembly defect in the engine (which would be just about impossible).

[PetrolDave]

why not just follow the guidelines of the manufacturer?

thats interesting, wonder how often audi recommend change of oil. If not at the right intervals they would get hit with a few bills covered by 3yr manufacturers warranty, esp seeing as some of the guys on the other thread have put 30-50,000 miles on their 3 yr old RS4's

The Audi guidelines are either 10000 miles if on fixed servicing or up to 20000 miles if on AVS ... and as has been well demonstrated in many posts on all the RS4 forums I visit the performance of the oil drops off greatly WELL BEFORE that sort of mileage takes place.

[sonny]

I think those figures are worst case scenario, maybe so the car appeals to normal Joe blogs. however us as car enthusiasts know that a engine and esp the FSI will benefit from regular oil changes or at least oil filter changes. fuel filters get over looked to in many cases.

[approved]

Many of us are now out of manufacturers warranty, and even though some of us have purchased the extended Audi warranty I'm not convinced that would cover a new engine after 4, 5 or more years.

Anyway, prevention is always better than cure.

why would your engine not be covered?

Have you ever known an extended warranty FULLY cover the cost of such an expensive engine? I very strongly suspect that the best you would get is a contribution towards the cost of a new engine, unless you could show that there was a manufacturing or assembly defect in the engine (which would be just about impossible).

if you extend your warranty with audi and your engine fails, they will cover it. i've asked them....

[approved]

and as has been well demonstrated in many posts on all the RS4 forums I visit the performance of the oil drops off greatly WELL BEFORE that sort of mileage takes place.

without soundling like an ass, how much impact would this decrease in performance have on your car, if you did follow the manufacturers guidelines for servicing your vehicle?

i ask becuase my tech says unless the car is being tracked or driven hard all the time, modern tolerances and oil qualities are that good, that there is no need for additional oil services.

[SR71]

Unfortunately, IMHO, your technician sounds like an ass.

Has he ever actually looked at any UOA analyses from a B7 RS4?

Owners here have been putting the best oil possible in their cars, having it analysed by leading tribologists and they will almost all tell you that it is woefully under-specced for the car. They're even sharing the data with you....

In terms of the performance, you'll only ever know if you crack it open. But most of us like to look after our toys and aren't willing to take the chance for the sake of a £100 in oil every now and again...

Still if your faith in the warranty is rock solid, I agree why bother?

I mean Audi got it right with their DRC system and their CCV system didn't they....

[approved]

Unfortunately, IMHO, your technician sounds like an ass.

Has he ever actually looked at any UOA analyses from a B7 RS4?

Owners here have been putting the best oil possible in their cars, having it analysed by leading tribologists and they will almost all tell you that it is woefully under-specced for the car. They're even sharing the data with you....

In terms of the performance, you'll only ever know if you crack it open. But most of us like to look after our toys and aren't willing to take the chance for the sake of a £100 in oil every now and again...

Still if your faith in the warranty is rock solid, I agree why bother?

I mean Audi got it right with their DRC system and their CCV system didn't they....

there you go again..mr patronising i know best...i ask fair questions and i get your snotty nosed replies, again.

if you cant beat em, join em...

So,why, if your right, do so many engines not fail? i mean if ithe oil is woefully underspecced?

also, why would you be 'taking a chance' following the manufacturers guidelines?

not all cars are the same, having been driven by different poeple different ways, for different lengths of time...some components will fail, some wont...

must be nervous times at audi, just waiting for all these engines to fail, knowing full well the oil they specify is useless, and the service intervals are not close enough together ?

i mean, they've only been rolling about on roads being used and abused for nigh on 4 years....

[P_G]

Gents, it is a forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion, however strongly that is put across.

I personally don't believe engines will fail by sticking to AVS guidelines otherwise they wouldn't have been introduced but changing your oil in between will not hurt and probably will do some good but don't ask me how that would be quantified!

[PetrolDave]

changing your oil in between will not hurt and probably will do some good

That alone is a good enough reason IMHO to change the oil more regularly than Audi say is necessary.

When backed up by the information freely available on the web (try looking at the many US RS4 Forums...) about the way that FSI engines in particular suffer rapid degradation in oil performance, I think it's a damn good idea to change your oil more regularly.

[PetrolDave]

if you extend your warranty with audi and your engine fails, they will cover it. i've asked them....

I admire your faith...

I've heard Audi UK say many things, but when it comes to the crunch do something else...

I plan to do anything I can do which doesn't cost a fortune and which can be shown will tend to increase the longevity of my car (without getting in the way of my enjoyment of it).

[sonny]

So what oil then do you guys recommend, 5-30 not good then?

[mac4RS]

there you go again..mr patronising i know best...i ask fair questions and i get your snotty nosed replies, again.

Agree with PG; we are entitled to our own opinions. The only remark that SR71 said that may have been condescending, was the tech being an ass - mind you, most of the ones I've met over the years fit this catogory