3,000 to 8,000 3rd gear test,

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Re: 3,000 to 8,000 3rd gear test,

Post by rs4lee » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:48 pm

j-marksie wrote:Well just left the rolling road, results are pretty much what I expected, 360hp at the wheels, fuel mixture perfect apparently. Looks like I'll be doing a carbon clean soon
Can u clarify 360hp at the wheels or flywheel ??

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Re: 3,000 to 8,000 3rd gear test,

Post by api330 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:56 pm

rs4lee wrote:
j-marksie wrote:Well just left the rolling road, results are pretty much what I expected, 360hp at the wheels, fuel mixture perfect apparently. Looks like I'll be doing a carbon clean soon
Can u clarify 360hp at the wheels or flywheel ??
Good point.

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Re: 3,000 to 8,000 3rd gear test,

Post by rs4lee » Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:07 pm

Think 20% transmission loss is acceptable for a 4wd car , so if its 360hp at the wheels on a stock car , there is no need for a carbon clean :-). In fact it would be very healthy indeed 432hp

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Re: 3,000 to 8,000 3rd gear test,

Post by api330 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:34 pm

rs4lee wrote:Think 20% transmission loss is acceptable for a 4wd car , so if its 360hp at the wheels on a stock car , there is no need for a carbon clean :-). In fact it would be very healthy indeed 432hp
And that would make the times on the test make sense, will have to wait for his reply about flywheel or wheel bhp and hopefully get some more folks to post some times up.

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Re: 3,000 to 8,000 3rd gear test,

Post by ArthurPE » Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:08 am

api330 wrote:Could not wait till tomorrow so have been out and done mine, Did 8 runs and the time that come up 4 out of the 8 times was 8.7 seconds couple of just above 8.8 and 8.9 and one at 8.5 and one at 9.7 but think i pressed a bit early on the start on that one so going by the amount of times i hit 8.7 i would say that was my time , Temp was 6 degree's 1/2 tank of fuel and i am 600 feet above sea level flat ground but not dead straight bit of a bend all the way. Now for me that is approx what the testers where getting when cars where new so i think my car should have just about all of its power, ( Arthur this is where you come in) Could do with some of you chaps who know they are running 400 odd to do some tests on there cars and post the results, (know as in been on rollers and told there cars are this or that power according to the rollers) Cheers.

I'd say you are good to go, 600' ASL ~ 10 HP loss or so, plus the bend may have cost a bit
but the cold air will help a bit
how many miles on your car?
ever cleaned?
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Re: 3,000 to 8,000 3rd gear test,

Post by MikeFish » Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:27 am

j-marksie wrote:Yeah I'm going to run a few 3-8k tests now to get the average like you said. Then carbon clean as the car has done 68,000 and never had one that I know of. Going to have a read of that thread recently made for carbon cleaning
Arthur, he answered your questions before you even asked them!

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Re: 3,000 to 8,000 3rd gear test,

Post by api330 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:34 am

ArthurPE wrote:
api330 wrote:Could not wait till tomorrow so have been out and done mine, Did 8 runs and the time that come up 4 out of the 8 times was 8.7 seconds couple of just above 8.8 and 8.9 and one at 8.5 and one at 9.7 but think i pressed a bit early on the start on that one so going by the amount of times i hit 8.7 i would say that was my time , Temp was 6 degree's 1/2 tank of fuel and i am 600 feet above sea level flat ground but not dead straight bit of a bend all the way. Now for me that is approx what the testers where getting when cars where new so i think my car should have just about all of its power, ( Arthur this is where you come in) Could do with some of you chaps who know they are running 400 odd to do some tests on there cars and post the results, (know as in been on rollers and told there cars are this or that power according to the rollers) Cheers.

I'd say you are good to go, 600' ASL ~ 10 HP loss or so, plus the bend may have cost a bit
but the cold air will help a bit
how many miles on your car?
ever cleaned?
Hi Arthur, It's done 55,000 and i don't think its had a carbon clean, I am going to try and find out as it would be usefull for this thread, What power would you estimate my car is running using my times as a guide ?,

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Re: 3,000 to 8,000 3rd gear test,

Post by MikeFish » Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:36 am

Oops, ignore me!

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Re: 3,000 to 8,000 3rd gear test,

Post by PetrolDave » Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:32 am

api330 wrote:hopefully get some more folks to post some times up.
I did this test 3 years ago in France and averaged 8.5 seconds (IIRC) (at 1000ft above sea level and with approx. 30k miles done), repeated it yesterday and also averaged 8.5 (at 100ft above sea level and with approx 60k miles done).
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Re: 3,000 to 8,000 3rd gear test,

Post by api330 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:27 pm

PetrolDave wrote:
api330 wrote:hopefully get some more folks to post some times up.
I did this test 3 years ago in France and averaged 8.5 seconds (IIRC) (at 1000ft above sea level and with approx. 30k miles done), repeated it yesterday and also averaged 8.5 (at 100ft above sea level and with approx 60k miles done).
I think mine would have been around the 8.5 mark as just as i was hitting the stop button on the lap timer the car was hitting the rev limiter which is set at 8,250 rpm so i am pressing the stop a bit to late, I think by the time I see the 8,000 rpm then press the button a couple more tenths have gone by hence hitting the limiter,( I think that's why i got the one time of 8.5, I probably hit the button at the right time instead of hitting the limiter before pressing the stop button thus saving me a couple of tenths.) Have you had a carbon clean or been on the rollers ?.
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Re: 3,000 to 8,000 3rd gear test,

Post by ArthurPE » Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:29 pm

api330 wrote:
ArthurPE wrote:
api330 wrote:Could not wait till tomorrow so have been out and done mine, Did 8 runs and the time that come up 4 out of the 8 times was 8.7 seconds couple of just above 8.8 and 8.9 and one at 8.5 and one at 9.7 but think i pressed a bit early on the start on that one so going by the amount of times i hit 8.7 i would say that was my time , Temp was 6 degree's 1/2 tank of fuel and i am 600 feet above sea level flat ground but not dead straight bit of a bend all the way. Now for me that is approx what the testers where getting when cars where new so i think my car should have just about all of its power, ( Arthur this is where you come in) Could do with some of you chaps who know they are running 400 odd to do some tests on there cars and post the results, (know as in been on rollers and told there cars are this or that power according to the rollers) Cheers.

I'd say you are good to go, 600' ASL ~ 10 HP loss or so, plus the bend may have cost a bit
but the cold air will help a bit
how many miles on your car?
ever cleaned?
Hi Arthur, It's done 55,000 and i don't think its had a carbon clean, I am going to try and find out as it would be usefull for this thread, What power would you estimate my car is running using my times as a guide ?,

over 400, close to rated power
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Re: 3,000 to 8,000 3rd gear test,

Post by ArthurPE » Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:34 pm

api330 wrote:
PetrolDave wrote:
api330 wrote:hopefully get some more folks to post some times up.
I did this test 3 years ago in France and averaged 8.5 seconds (IIRC) (at 1000ft above sea level and with approx. 30k miles done), repeated it yesterday and also averaged 8.5 (at 100ft above sea level and with approx 60k miles done).
I think mine would have been around the 8.5 mark as just as i was hitting the stop button on the lap timer the car was hitting the rev limiter which is set at 8,250 rpm so i am pressing the stop a bit to late, i think by the time i see the 8,000 rpm then press the button a couple more tenths have gone by hense hitting the limiter, Have you had a carbon clean or been on the rollers ?.

the needle also lags a bit, so some inherent delay
the needle really moves from 6k to 8k!

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Re: 3,000 to 8,000 3rd gear test,

Post by PetrolDave » Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:42 pm

api330 wrote: Have you had a carbon clean or been on the rollers ?.
No, and no.

It still sets times that are within factory spec and makes me smile every time I drive it, so why should I bother with the hassle and cost?
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Re: 3,000 to 8,000 3rd gear test,

Post by ArthurPE » Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:57 pm

PetrolDave wrote:
api330 wrote: Have you had a carbon clean or been on the rollers ?.
No, and no.

It still sets times that are within factory spec and makes me smile every time I drive it, so why should I bother with the hassle and cost?

:notworthy:

my sentiments exactly

my stereo does not replicate sound exactly, but very close
does this diminish the joy of the music? the experience?

the same for the loss of a few HP than can only be used a very small fraction of the time, and in reality can't even be noticed
so should the driving experience be diminished?
imho no
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Re: 3,000 to 8,000 3rd gear test,

Post by api330 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:18 pm

PetrolDave wrote:
api330 wrote: Have you had a carbon clean or been on the rollers ?.
No, and no.

It still sets times that are within factory spec and makes me smile every time I drive it, so why should I bother with the hassle and cost?
+1 (It must be close to factory bhp if not dead on) :redrs4:
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