Poll regarding rs4 b7

[Audi Pardner]

If the b7 is the last big-engined manual RS that will help classic status I imagine.

Absolutely right. Big-engined cars are increasingly frowned upon and actively discouraged by our home and European masters and this will no doubt continue (look how much we pay in VED for the privilege of driving on broken roads,irrespective of how much we drive). Manufacturers respond by producing vehicles with smaller capacity engines ergo more fuel efficient; this is happening in the States too with the boom in smaller 'sedans'. Sure, big V8s still make their way into some cars there and in Europe, but the trend is definitely in decline.

All this means that cars like ours will become gradually more sought after, albeit by a limited number of people, but the result will be rising values I'm sure.

[neilparf]

If the b7 is the last big-engined manual RS that will help classic status I imagine.

Absolutely right. Big-engined cars are increasingly frowned upon and actively discouraged by our home and European masters and this will no doubt continue (look how much we pay in VED for the privilege of driving on broken roads,irrespective of how much we drive). Manufacturers respond by producing vehicles with smaller capacity engines ergo more fuel efficient; this is happening in the States too with the boom in smaller 'sedans'. Sure, big V8s still make their way into some cars there and in Europe, but the trend is definitely in decline.

All this means that cars like ours will become gradually more sought after, albeit by a limited number of people, but the result will be rising values I'm sure.

Couldn't agree more. The trend in demand and supply of customers and manufactures driven by fuel costs, running costs, global emission policies and the general perception big engine cars are frowned upon will, in certain circles keep the desire to own a V8 or alike still very healthy.

Furthermore, whilst the trend is in decline to own a big engine car, if the new future looking hybrid 918 spider can be hailed as a pivotal point in motor car design and manufacture, but still employ a V6 4.6 then the complete death of the 'big engine' is still some way off in my opinion and can only mean that a V8 RS4 still has a place on a fair few driveways yet...

[S4Player]

Going by the RS avant heritage, if it's to become a classic then I personally think it'll be the avant only given that status.

[neilparf]

Going by the RS avant heritage, if it's to become a classic then I personally think it'll be the avant only given that status.

Really?

I understand Avant body types are more prolific in the RS range of late, but honestly I can see any B7 body type being a 'classic'- an RS is an RS as Dave mentions - and it's all down to the continual desire to own either an avant or saloon and on that I think there's a pretty equal mix of body types, owners and new potential owners wanting either.

But then, what makes a classic? In part, I think the desire of ownership and the low pickings of good quality examples will unfortunately and eventually come in to play. Ergo, that 'classic status' will be attributed to what's available and that continual desire of individuals wanting to own either - that mix, I feel will still continue.

All in my opinion of course...

[S4Player]

I don't like avants I'd never own one but yes I do believe that only the avants will ever be given that classic status. Maybe in the eyes of the traditionalists anyway, stemming back to the RS2 being an avant.

[neilparf]

I don't like avants I'd never own one but yes I do believe that only the avants will ever be given that classic status. Maybe in the eyes of the traditionalists anyway, stemming back to the RS2 being an avant.

I don't like avant's either, and being a saloon owner I guess I'm partially biased. The purists will always perceive an avant as classic - that I agree on. However, I think the RS4 B7 (in this instance) harbours enough overall elements that make it classic on some level; the engine being one. Clarkson's B7 saloon TG test a few years back hinted at the engine being an all time great...

[R1RS4]

Going by the RS avant heritage, if it's to become a classic then I personally think it'll be the avant only given that status.

+1 and its faster lol

[neilparf]

Going by the RS avant heritage, if it's to become a classic then I personally think it'll be the avant only given that status.

+1 and its faster lol

If you remove the small batch loaf and baguettes, yes it's faster...

[Audi Pardner]

I should know, but don't. How many taxis were produced as opposed to breadvans?

The reason I plumped for a breadvan was the practicality of an estate (I need to get my artisan bread delivered in style and Waitrose don't like me arriving in a taxi )

I like the B8 RS4 and and am quite tempted to trade up, but the motoring press generally rate the B7 as an overall better package so I'll stick with my Warburton delivery image in the old skool format.

[RS4Guy]

I think the B7 has already achieved cult status, considering how badly the B8 has been received by the motoring press. I think the taxi will achieve classic status as it was the first 4 door RS4. The breadvan will trade on its Q-Car origins and become a classic. Somehow i think the cabrio will get there too eventually just because it is that little bit more rare.

As the taxi and breadvans get rarer too, (scumbags nicking seats and boy-racer affordability inevitably leads to a few more wrapped around trees), prices will begin to rise. Just look at those low mileage RS2's hitting £30K now.

Sadly, mine will never be a garage queen. 112,000 smiles and rising...

[RIV]

As the taxi and breadvans get rarer too, (scumbags nicking seats and boy-racer affordability inevitably leads to a few more wrapped around trees), prices will begin to rise. Just look at those low mileage RS2's hitting £30K now.

Rs2's are rare b7 are not, makes a difference

[neilparf]

I should know, but don't. How many taxis were produced as opposed to breadvans?

The reason I plumped for a breadvan was the practicality of an estate (I need to get my artisan bread delivered in style and Waitrose don't like me arriving in a taxi )

I like the B8 RS4 and and am quite tempted to trade up, but the motoring press generally rate the B7 as an overall better package so I'll stick with my Warburton delivery image in the old skool format.

[redrsr]

As a lot of classics are bought by old people, maybe the avant stands a better chance..

[will_kdy]

I too believe its a classic in the waiting! Whether it be a loon or avant... convertible probably a little less so as they were never really well received as a proper performance car! Sorry
However any thoughts on future values/status of cars with DRC retained? for me the whole appeal of the B7 was the overall package... screaming V8 and of course the handling and driveability on all surfaces... Any thoughts?