Dyno Log..opinions welcomed

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Re: Dyno Log..opinions welcomed

Post by adsgreen » Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:19 pm

nikkak77 wrote:Hi Sam,

No the car has not been remapped.
This is likely the problem.

With an NA car the exhaust gas can account for getting more air into the cylinder than the actual vacuum created by the piston heading down. In order to do this correctly timing is everything.
You've removed a lot of restriction from the exhaust so the gas velocity is likely to be higher... unfortunately this means that when the ECU opens the intake valve the exhaust has already gone and there is nothing left.
In ideal situation you want the exhaust gas *just* about leaving as the intake is open as this will pull in a large amount of air.

Now the exhaust characteristics in 99.9% of all ECU's is effectively treated as a known parameter. There are no gas velocity or timing sensors in the exhaust so the ECU has nothing other than it's fixed exhaust profile to base it on. As such all it can do is look at the O2 mix of the exhaust and it'll probably see that it's way off what it would expect and so it'll back off on fuel and timing.

However it won't trip the CEL unless it's way way outside it's parameters where it will think that engine damage or especially cat converter issues (as they catch fire) are likely.

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Post by neilparf » Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:36 pm

Surrey Sam wrote:If I did go that route then I'd want a remap that catered for the extra flow...
It's the only real solution...
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Post by nikkak77 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:22 pm

I just ordered the JHM map which as stated takes care of the additional flow and prevents any fault codes

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Post by neilparf » Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:48 pm

nikkak77 wrote:I just ordered the JHM map which as stated takes care of the additional flow and prevents any fault codes
Perfect. Best way forward. :thumbs:
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Post by marc1 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:00 pm

I was going to say I'm pretty sure MRC can map remotely or at the very least can accept the ECU by post, map it and send it back to you. Hopefully the JHM map will suffice and give you what you need though.

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Post by nikkak77 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:15 pm

marc1 wrote:I was going to say I'm pretty sure MRC can map remotely or at the very least can accept the ECU by post, map it and send it back to you. Hopefully the JHM map will suffice and give you what you need though.
Have alrady talked to MRC and declined to remotely map the car or even receive the ECUs for flash.
So only option with good credentials among RS forum members is JHM.

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Re: Dyno Log..opinions welcomed

Post by nikkak77 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:29 pm

neilparf wrote:
nikkak77 wrote:I just ordered the JHM map which as stated takes care of the additional flow and prevents any fault codes
Perfect. Best way forward. :thumbs:
Speaking out of personal experience?
What should I expect?

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