Is this worth a look?

[lengster1]

+1
To state a car is worth cap book or glasses nothing more or less just shows how little you know,Cap is a buying tool for the trade and comes out of the top drawer if they can get away with it to value a p/x its well known throughout the trade to be low on values,your on a forum were owners are generally enthusiasts and there cars will generally a cut above the tosh your trawling through,It looks to me like your looking for a bargain and not the going rate hence youve still not bought after months!! Thats fine we all like a deal,you need to be looking at a whole lot more than price and mileage and the relative trade valuation,seats paintwork accident damage tyres etc etc asking price means little until the overall package is considered.

[Ginors4]

Very interesting. Peoples differences in opinions. I believe that is a combination in a lot of all factors discussed. Kmpowell's opinions are correct maybe to a more popular standard road car where there are thousands available, but not so much on a specialist car.

My situation recently when purchasing my missano red avant was a case of waiting four months as I desperately fancied a red avant with bucket seats and a decent mileage. I only see three cars matching this spec in four months of searching and none of which have been available since. The other two were sold by auto prestige with rpsxr purchasing the one i really wanted on the 20s (jealous) Now with only around 40 avants available currently for sale with many variations in spec and colour i was prepared to wait and pay nearly 3k more than other examples with similar mileage but different colours or seat options. My view was that if I am spending out this sort of money, why compromise in colour and seats to save a couple of grand when I would only wished I spent the extra to get what I really wanted. This doesn't mean throwing silly money at the exact spec, but patients and timing is key.

Also using Kmpowells theory is if you have two identically milage Avants in same colour and factory options in identical condition were priced using these book priced guides ie 17k - 18k on a 56/07 plate. One of these cars may have (like mine) four new tyres, new discs and pads front and back, DRC's recently replaced) and the other RS4 had low tread tyres with brakes needing doing in near future and on original DRCs, then the latter car would be ready for a 4k - 5k bill after purchasing. This proves that any book guide is way out for estimating the value of your car, it s definitely worth viewing and concluding your own evaluation of what u want to pay.

[F@tBoyF@t]

Kevin - perhaps you'll have more joy here...?

Nobody is going to give away their pride and joy.

I felt that Kev-Nix's Avant was a very good buy.
The dealer made a £3500 mark-up (less VAT) & as if to illustrate how good a buy it was even with the dealer mark-up, it sold within 10 days.

Think you missed the trick there.

Ian

[rpsxr]

... with rpsxr purchasing the one i really wanted on the 20s (jealous) .....

they're still for sale Ginors4...
(sorry for the plug...)

[linkman72]

Here's an example for you = My Audi S4 B6 was on sale for £8495 - then £7995 then £7495, the guy had it for 10 months with no bites, I paid £5000 for it with a shedload of options. Dealer ticket prices are there to be haggled, especially on a V8 at the minute. Its a buyers market and thats just the way it is.

I would pay no more than 18k for an RS at the minute because they just arent selling well, I can put my car on sale again now for £8k but lets face it I wont get it ?

[lengster1]

GinoRS4 extends the point i was trying to make perfectly.Comparing V8 popularity to an S4 that looks plain handles so so and was never a huge hit in general is a wee bit incorrect.An rs4 priced within 3k of the norm should be viewed and evaluated on its own merits not overlooked because of its "price point" tyres brakes and tidying a few scratches can come to 3k and equally a poor colour and spec can harm a car by 3k,its pointless kmpowell concentrating so much on Rs4 asking prices when he needs to p/x another car because if they dont want it then the best face value price just became much dearer when they have your pants down a further 1-2k id suggest you do the hardest bit and find a good car and price after that is less relevant as theres alot of junk out there nowadays

[kmpowell]

Also using Kmpowells theory is if you have two identically milage Avants in same colour and factory options in identical condition were priced using these book priced guides ie 17k - 18k on a 56/07 plate. One of these cars may have (like mine) four new tyres, new discs and pads front and back, DRC's recently replaced) and the other RS4 had low tread tyres with brakes needing doing in near future and on original DRCs, then the latter car would be ready for a 4k - 5k bill after purchasing. This proves that any book guide is way out for estimating the value of your car, it s definitely worth viewing and concluding your own evaluation of what u want to pay.

Book prices are adjusted for different grades of condition and work that needs doing. The prices I am talking about take into consideration that the car is serviced and does not need new tyres/clutch etc. So in your example the car that needs new tyres etc is not worth £17-18k, therefore is overpriced and I wouldn't go near it.

[HYFR]

Buy cheap buy twice

Depends what you want.

If you want a Minter, you ain't gonna get it for your budget

But you will get a car which you'll think will do

[RS4pete]

It's a case of buying the best you can afford and ideally from a known member or decent indie. (not taking into account the ultra low mileage 4's for silly money). You'll get a very good car with very good spec and if properly looked after it'll hold its money well. As mentioned before to true cost is the depreciation (and finance if required) If you penny pinch and buy a shitter you'll just suffer come resale.

[kmpowell]

Buy cheap, buy twice

I'm not looking to buy cheap, I'm looking to buy something that's market mate, not unrealistic prices. Cheap cars are cheap for a reason.

If you want a Minter, you ain't gonna get it for your budget

How do you know that, are you the one who prices all the RS4's for sale in the UK?

It's incredible that even though I've not been aggressive, not tried to be confrontational, produced cars and market trends, there are people on here who are continually blunt or rude and refuse to acknowledge the market is flat and dead. Here are cars that tick all your boxes re being a 'minter' (FASH, avg miles, good spec, no need for tyres, brakes etc) and are priced accordingly to your rules, yet they've been on sale for at least a month (in some cases 2 or more) without selling, most have seen several price reductions...

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/clas ... oof/863107
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/clas ... eed/823760
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... ogcode=dsp
http://www.harringtonsoffulham.co.uk/us ... 3489798074
http://www.kevinmartinspecialistvehicle ... 1472729014
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/clas ... 007/881522

If I were to buy any of those cars, I would INSTANTLY go anywhere from £4-6k into negative equity. Why would any sane person do that? Why would I not hold on for a car that is sensibly priced, when I know (and have seen) that sensibly priced cars do exist. I'm not talking about cars that need work doing/parts etc, these are cars that went fall into your 'minter' category i.e. the Sprint Blue car I just missed out on.

Tired of trying to justify my decision, so prob best I keep my opinions to myself becasue it's clear that some on here don't like them.

[HYFR]

Bollocks

You do not know a Minter until you see it in the metal

So all you've done is list lots of examples of the current market prices.....I get it, the market is wrong and you are right!

I get your sentiment but whilst I agree you will be able to find a decent RS4 for your budget, the cream always rises to the top

See all the cars in my signature, iv sold majority privately, the miners I got top top money for, the average ones got a fair price and the dog got dog money!

[RS04YOB]

If you like it and you can afford just buy it

[HYFR]

Yup....negative equity? It's not a house..it's a car, that depreciates each and every month, but this makes sense if we use it and enjoy it

[FazS3]

Good car will always be worth good money.

Being someone who was in the market up until recently for a b7, believe you me a good car with good spec be it up at 22-25k does not hang about!

[linkman72]

I started looking for cars in November last year and bought mine in January and I can show you 3 examples of RS's that were for sale when I bought my B6 and are still for sale at the same price ??? ( 12 months later ? )

Optimism is what got our country in this mess to start with