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Is there a European equivalent of the Bentley CD's sold in the US? I guess the official Audi CD for the S4 never escaped?

I only know of the Official Audi Erwin manuals

https://erwin.audi.de/index.jsp although morpheous mentioned "elsa" not sure what he was referring to and he hasn't replied yet?

ELSA is Audi's maual, Electonic LSA? but is the info that they use in the dealerships with exploded diagrams and the parts lists are then on ETKA

Just Had a look at the Erwin Website, Looks pretty good.

Has anyone any experience of using it, did you get the info you needed?

Or is it better to fork out full wack up front for a bentleys CD?

Bentley just covers US model, the only reason I haven't bought one. Not sure how much difference there is between the Euro and US models. Anyone else know?

From Bushy's description ELSA sounds to be the same as the Erwin manuals. I can't imagine why Audi would go to the trouble to reproduce the level of detail contained in the Erwin manuals.

From what I have seen of the Bentley manuals they are almost identical in format to Erwin manuals (not entirely surprising) just different with respect to the differences in the US models. While I am no expert, I would have thought the main differences are in the electric's. The US models have safety features like depress the clutch before you can start the engine. (Prob due to the high number of Autos in the US.)

I have a number of the Erwin manuals downloaded and printed off. I could not find a way to store them electronically without having to access the password protection site. So basically when your subscription runs out after a year you have no manual unless you print it off. Although I've not tried to access since expiry! There are a large number of pages in most of these manuals!

I had planned to buy the Bentley manual for the majority of the car and fill the rest in with the Erwin manuals where necessary. So far I've only needed the 3-4 sections of the Erwin manuals.

However, at £45 or even less for the Bentley CD V's the £13 per section of Erwin the Bentley is the greater value for money.

But be warned these manuals are basic – The contain exploded views of parts. Define tolerances and bolt torque's etc. They do not contain photos or tips. Call off special Audi tools which I have found to be unnecessary. In short they are not written for the inexperienced!!

Also I believe the paper copies of the Bentley manuals are not as complete as the CDs.