Help.. K&N vs Pipercross vs BMC

[S4TAN]

Jimbo - my comment was referring to BlueT's original statement that there was an increase of 9g/s - he edited it to 7g/s when I pointed it out ....

[jimbogrey]

.[/quote]Anyway part now ordered from Edworthys £40.98 including VAT and delivery.

If it arrives tomorrow i will post results that evening if not it will be Teusday or Wednesday.

jimbo[/quote]

Just arrived home from 5 days holiday in Devon.

Part not yet received, rang customer service no guy answers and says he cannot help as the systems are down and the bloke that fixes them is away ill. Tells me to phone back tomorrow. Have I done my money?

does anyone have any experience with this company?

Its now a a week

[GrahamS4]

They are well established, but established with what reputation I don't know.

[jimbogrey]

They are well established, but established with what reputation I don't know.

just to update you am really being messed around by edworthys they dont sound very professional and are very rude. Have just been told that I will now not get the filter till middle of next week. so much for apromised 48hr delivery

So did a bit of home work Searched a few blogs and Edworthys have a terrible reputation. It seems the company was once very good but was bought out recently and now their reputation has gone down the drain. It appears that they are happy to take money and then order from suppliers i guess that they actually have very little stock!! some reports say it can take 3 months to get parts so my advice do not use.

As for the filter I checked the BMC website and Eurostyling are the sole uk importer of BMC car filters. Rang them up and yes they supply Edworthys but do very little with them.

I was very relieved to be told that they had my order and would be shipping it to me on Monday. Apparantly Phillw had their last one of the current batch So I guess its sitting in his garage waiting for him to return from Skiing!! . Instead it could have been on my car and results posted

So We'll have to wait for the clean OEM vs BMC match up will post results asap
jimbo

[AdamS4]

I got mine from here...

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/ ... uct=500601

Came next day

[jimbogrey]

I got mine from here...

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/ ... uct=500601

Came next day

Yes you and phill had the last two available in the country they all come through Euro styling, have spoken to them today and they would do a group buy @20% discount therefore £26.87 plus vat and delivery.

[Mikey-S]

I'll have one...

[Philws4]

Apparantly Phillw had their last one of the current batch So I guess its sitting in his garage waiting for him to return from Skiing!! . Instead it could have been on my car and results posted

Doh sorry about that
Will be fitting it this week and will let you all know the results.

[Ads4]

Who's up for sorting the GB then?

[jimbogrey]

Who's up for sorting the GB then?

well I,ve alrweady bought mine but i can still speak to the guy, but thought you would all wait untill results posted?

[GrahamS4]

Doh sorry about that
Will be fitting it this week and will let you all know the results.

Come on! LOL

Let us know Phil

[Philws4]

I have fitted it but won't have time until Saturday to do some logs i am afraid Graham ( brother has laptop )

[GrahamS4]

So sticking your neck out, any comment pre-logs? Could you tell if someone had swapped it overnight?

[Philws4]

Not even had a chance/time to drive it this week

[jimbogrey]

Well finally have my BMC and have now fitted it, initial reaction from butt dyno was that the car felt a bit stronger. but then being a supreme optimist that was always likeley. If you spend £40 on a air filter you dont want it to be worse.

Now started to do some logs but my kids have been messing about with my laptop and there is so much adware on there that i can bareley get it to function. and couldnt get any data off.

However i did manage to log several runs with the BMCand the best peak MAF reading that I achieved was 267 g/s, 7 g/s down on my previous peak with the OEM filter. However ambient temperatures were lower by about 4-5C for the 274 reading. I was not able to swap back to the OEM to do a same day comparison as the Laptop by this stage ws fooked!!

My feeling is though that with the BMC filter I wont see a greater peak MAF, but it may peak sooner and therefore feel more responsive. The main restriction in the engine is obviouly not the air filter (KO 3 with a remap, no other mods). From a peak MAF point of view I think it will take KO4's to reach the limit of the OEM paper filter.

Working out the Fats from these runs gave an average of 4.55 (2 uphill 2downhill rage 4.2 to 4.9)I have previusly achieved 4.42 with OEM so no real improvement there. This would seem to indicate that there is little benefit in the 4200- 6500 rpm range.

Im sorry not to be able to post actual numbers from VAGcom but if the IT guys sort out my computer i will do some same day comparisons with both over the weekend.

jimbo