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Finance Help
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:49 pm
by S4WON
Gents
About to pull trigger on finance deal.. I have 2 on the table, have chosen 1 but something caught my eye.. On one it says
4.9% APR
4.72% Fixed
Other one it says
4.8% APR
2.X Fixed
(Cant remember X, on train)
Seems strange such a difference, both audi PCP deals
Any ideas?
Re: Finance Help
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:09 pm
by doodlebug
One's got a typo. It's the same finance deal across the board.
Finance not actually done until car arrives and you sign the paperwork. At this point is quote and credit checks.
Re: Finance Help
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:15 pm
by S4WON
Yep, you're right and I'm an idiot. Just noticed the 2.x was hand written to explain something else and its the same fixed rate on both offers.
I assume the fixed rate is calculated on the total amount of credit rather than the difference between the GFV and the amount of credit?
Oh well, thats the choice i guess!
Re: Finance Help
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:19 pm
by doodlebug
Yep, full amount as that's the loan.
Finance Help
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:30 pm
by S4WON
You seem to be a good man to know. In general, pcp a decent way to go? Vs HP, bank loans etc?
Re: Finance Help
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:33 pm
by doodlebug
Audi's offer with the discount that goes with it cannot be sniffed at. There's always going to be cheaper credit but whether it offers something cheaper overall is a different question.
Re: Finance Help
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:38 pm
by S4WON
Thanks again.
Re: Finance Help
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:44 pm
by Markmyatt7
What sort of deposit do you put down on a PCP? And do you pay the lump sum at the end so the cars yours?
Re: Finance Help
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:49 pm
by doodlebug
Depends, Audi.co.uk is your friend, have a play with their finance calculator.
Re: Finance Help
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:13 pm
by S4WON
Yep and their calculator is pretty far off what I'm being offered at the dealer.
their calculator also quotes 2.43% fixed... the dealers 4.72% fixed..
payments also a lot higher for the same "total amount of credit" and the same term, mileage...
something is amiss....
happy to send you the mail I just sent to Audi if you PM me your email address
Re: Finance Help
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:25 pm
by Markmyatt7
S4WON wrote:Yep and their calculator is pretty far off what I'm being offered at the dealer.
their calculator also quotes 2.43% fixed... the dealers 4.72% fixed..
payments also a lot higher for the same "total amount of credit" and the same term, mileage...
something is amiss....
happy to send you the mail I just sent to Audi if you PM me your email address
Pm sent
Re: Finance Help
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:51 am
by fabrs4
Well done for going for the RS6 have you sorted which options your going for.
Re: Finance Help
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:14 am
by S4WON
Yep, all sorted, just getting these finance woes sorted then ill do a proper post. A couple of members have been really helpful but i cant help feeling a little let down at the way the pcp deal has been constructed.
Still time to put it right though i guess!
Re: Finance Help
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:36 pm
by Wotsirb
The lower number is the fixed rate. For example 5% flat means you're paying £50 per £1000 borrowed over the term. This roughly translates to 10% APR.
APR will vary dependant upon term and deposit, so even if the flat rate is fixed at 5%, dependant on term the APR could vary from 9.7-10.1%
On a PCP you'll just need to be careful about the amount of deposit you put in as there will always be a good middle ground. Too much and you'll have to find that deposit again next time for a similar car of a similar price for a similar payment. Some people make the decision to put in 30% and then wonder why they don't have as much equity as their deposit/their payments go up... It's simple, deposit doesn't have an effect on the GMFV/Option to Purchase fee, so the amount of equity at the end will be the same. Higher deposits just mean lower monthly cost.
Hope this is all making sense!
Re: Finance Help
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:27 am
by PSB1
Wotsirb wrote:.. It's simple, deposit doesn't have an effect on the GMFV/Option to Purchase fee, so the amount of equity at the end will be the same. Higher deposits just mean lower monthly cost.
Hope this is all making sense!
I'm by no means an expert on these finance products but every time I think I have them fully understood, somebody throws a curveball
Is the quoted bit above correct? Surely it's all about attacking the balance and getting the greatest possible amount of daylight between the amount outstanding at the end of the agreement and the GFV? Doesn't this then drive the equity? Admittedly, I've only ever had balanced payment agreements but am considering pcp, hoping it offers flexibility beyond being able to exit early.
Would welcome enlightenment!