Very Rough Idle - cold start

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Very Rough Idle - cold start

Post by Maximo » Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:27 pm

As the title suggests, I'm getting a very rough idle every now and then. It only happens first thing in the morning and It's not every time though. The issue is when the engine starts all seems fine, it idles fine until I select a gear. Then the rev counter bounces all over the place and if you take your foot off the brake kangaroo hoping starts. To sort it all out I just move it out of gear and give it some throttle.

Anyone else had this before or have ideas?

Thanks,

Garry
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Re: Very Rough Idle - cold start

Post by Shoppinit » Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:59 pm

Sounds like an air leak. Or maybe a bad MAF. What are your trim values like?

Maybe a diff coolant temp sender.
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Re: Very Rough Idle - cold start

Post by Maximo » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:12 pm

I was thinking MAF or may throttle potentiometer. I've not checked the trim values, as it's not all the time. I'll do a few cold starts with the laptop plugged in and see what data I can read off.

Wouldn't an air leak cause it to happen both hot and cold?

Hows the coolant temp sender likely to cause this?
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Re: Very Rough Idle - cold start

Post by Shoppinit » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:47 pm

Incoherent temp values will affect the fuelling. It adjusts the injector times based on the engine temps.

I don't think it's the throttle. It has a redundancy and would bring up an EPC warning if there was an incoherence.

If there's a leak it may affect the idle more or less depending on other factors.

Any codes stored?
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