Maximum gearbox torque before slipping

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Re: Maximum gearbox torque before slipping

Post by blm70 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:00 pm

TTE Si wrote:We make near 1000nm on our RS6 no issues. If want I can put you In touch with the company that modified ours.
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Re: Maximum gearbox torque before slipping

Post by Shoppinit » Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:22 am

Why not just name them?
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Re: Maximum gearbox torque before slipping

Post by TTE Si » Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:08 pm

Shoppinit wrote:Why not just name them?
Because I couldn't for the life of me spell it or find last night...

But here : https://www.facebook.com/Getriebeklinik ... 819853656/

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Re: Maximum gearbox torque before slipping

Post by bam_bam » Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:18 pm

Well that's a fair answer...
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Re: Maximum gearbox torque before slipping

Post by Shoppinit » Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:22 pm

:thumbs: Good, I hate the cloak and dagger crap.

I've heard of these people. Someone on here mentioned them recently. Think I was put off by lack of website and mobile phone numbers, etc.

Can you tell us any more about this place?
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Re: Maximum gearbox torque before slipping

Post by TTE Si » Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:29 pm

Yeah very good we found. Made our shifting quicker with internal mods too

I've had no personal dealings as was handled by Chris in our company as is German

But we also used recently on our golf 7r 500+Hp DSG car for box/clutch mods

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Maximum gearbox torque before slipping

Post by Jay_g » Sat Mar 19, 2016 1:01 pm

Do you have ideas on what they did or costs?

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Re: Maximum gearbox torque before slipping

Post by Steveo » Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:38 pm

TTE Si wrote:
Shoppinit wrote:Why not just name them?
Because I couldn't for the life of me spell it or find last night...

But here : https://www.facebook.com/Getriebeklinik ... 819853656/


Getriebeklinik added 2 new photos.
8 March at 07:43 ·
Audi RS6+ C5 4B
1198 PS & 1578 NM

I clicked on the link and saw the numbers for the C5. 1198ps :bowdown:
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Re: Maximum gearbox torque before slipping

Post by jockthedog » Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:26 pm

ooooo my kinda Facebook photos those! loverly gears :)
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Re: Maximum gearbox torque before slipping

Post by mavada » Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:00 am

Seems their website is offline...?
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Re: Maximum gearbox torque before slipping

Post by nickb834 » Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:11 pm

Steveo wrote:
Getriebeklinik added 2 new photos.
8 March at 07:43 ·
Audi RS6+ C5 4B
1198 PS & 1578 NM

I clicked on the link and saw the numbers for the C5. 1198ps :bowdown:
I could be wrong but I think they're referring to the two RS's in the photo combined.....?
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Re: Maximum gearbox torque before slipping

Post by Jay_g » Sun Mar 20, 2016 10:25 pm

blm70 wrote:I did and he acknowledged the fact that these boxes can handle up to 850+Nm etc. Chap then pointed out that the torque converters they use are reconditioned units they buy in i.e. this would be the weak link so to speak, and that whilst these TC's are fine with non-modified cars, once you start mapping then it becomes a lottery as to whether it will hold or not.

He showed me the inside of one where there is only one friction band in place to handle the torque. Later model 'boxes have more bands and he pointed to the Mercedes boxes that are apparently much more robust because of this.

Does this sound like b/s or does he have a point?

I understand MRC's approach removes any doubt by simply replacing the 'box with an exchange unit direct from Audi, although it's not a cheap option which is why many people consider getting theirs rebuilt (not cheap either.)

I have considered the updated components route, although I'm wary of it still not fixing the issue, as Murphy's Law would no doubt apply. At least the exchange unit option comes with a 2 year warranty.

Just doing the math - going from standard torque of 413lb/ft to (potentially) 650lb/ft is almost a 40% increase. Whilst mechanical components do have headroom, this sounds like a big ask...

Anyway, it's running fine at present and MRC have recently carried out a flush and ATF change, so for now I'll just enjoy it but I do see an exchange 'box on the horizon some time this year...
So they are admitting something isn't quite right, but not doing anything about it?

Regardless of what other boxes have, these boxes can take the power in their standard form. A rebuild *SHOULD* take it to the same standard form, thus no slipping when mapped.
If it's just the TC slipping, is it worth updating the TC?

Really, they should be sorting that too....

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Re: Maximum gearbox torque before slipping

Post by bam_bam » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:22 am

nickb834 wrote:
Steveo wrote:
Getriebeklinik added 2 new photos.
8 March at 07:43 ·
Audi RS6+ C5 4B
1198 PS & 1578 NM

I clicked on the link and saw the numbers for the C5. 1198ps :bowdown:
I could be wrong but I think they're referring to the two RS's in the photo combined.....?
Never really looks that impressive, it's just a picture of two cars.
1383PS 1717Nm.
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Re: Maximum gearbox torque before slipping

Post by Jay_g » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:27 am

They have a video on there FB quoting some handsome looking power figures

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Re: Maximum gearbox torque before slipping

Post by nickb834 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:39 pm

bam_bam wrote: Never really looks that impressive, it's just a picture of two cars.
1383PS 1717Nm.
Oh I dunno about that - I like the one with the fat bum on the left.....
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