Engine Management Light Flashes after Cambelt Change

[Lionheart]

Hi mik15

Does yours also do it on start up?

[bakustax]

Ok, car is back in at the garage.

I noted upon start up the last couple of times that there is a slight rattle noise.

Additionally, when nudging the accelerator back and forth lightly when stationary there is a very light rattle. You can also notice it when pulling away from stationary. Just half a second or so.

I assume this is one of the cam chains? Could this be down to the tension not being correct/tight enough on the cam??

To clarify guys, lets assume that the timing is out for whatever reason. Can it be manually set to the correct settings (ignoring locking tools)? And if so, how - and where do you get the correct settings from - or is it calculations???

The rattle on start-up has fu*k all to do with the Cam belt...It's a red herring they all do it...everybody finds this out after purchasing...Ignoring locking tools is not a smart move...One thing you will learn pretty quick about these beasties is that when you are getting any work done on them it's always a good idea to ask the garage if they have done the job before it will save this type of situation...still you're stuck with it now...download the pdf I attached a few posts back and give it to the garage...it's fairly easy to follow for any competent mechanic...If the boy you have doing your car is still lost...he is not a competent mechanic...find one who knows what they are doing and get the car along there ASAP...sorry for being a bit ranty… but these cars are getting few and far between and we don't need another one going bang because someone is experimenting with yours

[nukinukinuki]

Ok, car is back in at the garage.

I noted upon start up the last couple of times that there is a slight rattle noise.

Additionally, when nudging the accelerator back and forth lightly when stationary there is a very light rattle. You can also notice it when pulling away from stationary. Just half a second or so.

I assume this is one of the cam chains? Could this be down to the tension not being correct/tight enough on the cam??

To clarify guys, lets assume that the timing is out for whatever reason. Can it be manually set to the correct settings (ignoring locking tools)? And if so, how - and where do you get the correct settings from - or is it calculations???

The rattle on start-up has fu*k all to do with the Cam belt...It's a red herring they all do it...everybody finds this out after purchasing...Ignoring locking tools is not a smart move...One thing you will learn pretty quick about these beasties is that when you are getting any work done on them it's always a good idea to ask the garage if they have done the job before it will save this type of situation...still you're stuck with it now...download the pdf I attached a few posts back and give it to the garage...it's fairly easy to follow for any competent mechanic...If the boy you have doing your car is still lost...he is not a competent mechanic...find one who knows what they are doing and get the car along there ASAP...sorry for being a bit ranty… but these cars are getting few and far between and we don't need another one going bang because someone is experimenting with yours

+1.. Too many people taking on work/jobs they are not familiar with or not knowing what is necessary from experience built and gained doing them. They now open a book.. Read the average "Book" time it takes to do the job and give you a price.. But yet still make you feel confident about the job you require doing, Playing Guinea pig and charging you the labour to teach themselves on your very expensive toy at your expense.. I presumed they would have initially treat the cam belt job like any conventional 1.2 that drives in (Shouting down the shop floor has anyone done an RS6 before). You should not even be having to go through the headache of all this. I bet you're losing the will to live day by day knowing the garage probably have less knowledge now about the job... Then you now do since posting on the forum!

I would be pretty scared to give them the .PDF timing document (although you dont have much choice) but that makes you then lose all confidence in thinking they are a competent garage - A little like going on holiday having to give the pilot instructions. You will probably enter the garage tomorrow for an update.. To find a home made cam locking tool made from MDF bolted to your engine block. I would be asking the question..How many more tooth guessing attempts are there going to be until its right? They have had 2 attempts now as far as i am aware...

I would probably give citizen advice a quick call and explain the scenario from the date the car entered the garage up to press.. Explain how your losing confidence with the garage due to what’s happened so far, What could potentially happen if something major went wrong and you were stung with a huge repair bill after they string you with lies how something failed causing all these problems but certainly nothing to do with the belt, This is obviously a worst case scenario and perhaps a little extreme without giving them yet another go at getting the job right.. But at least you're lack of confidence and concern for your vehicles well being has been spoken about and logged with the local citizens advice prior to any major damage in the event anything catastrophic does potentially happen.

Maybe im been a little OTT.. But my list of horror stories are endless ALL because of the "Stamp and Receipt" way of life..To prove the car has been done apparently "right" when half of the time it has to go back due to some mechanical incompetence wherever it ends up going. When i know myself i would have done the job right but that doesn’t sell your car when you have no history.

In this current climate people don’t get Pay rises as regular as prior years, They work long hours and don’t have no real passion in their work no more, Their level of Workman ship goes downhill due to frustration of the hard labour with little reward and little if not any Incentives to be bothered.. They aren’t the guys who are worrying about your car at night there just waiting for Fridays payday after the governments taken their taxes out.. They don’t care because it’s simply not there car to care about.

Just one example, At the weekend Over a Pint me and my best pal were talking about work and general everything..We got on the subject of his new job working for a gearbox firm.. He said that their boss specifically tells them not to replace the Top bulkhead gearbox bell housing bolts on Taxis (Can you believe this?) Just because it takes up too much time to replace them all on re-installation, But they have to make the effort and complete the job for young women with children.. My friend obviously seriously disagrees but can’t say much as he need to hold out the job. Its just a shame how things come down to this.. And don’t think for one minute its any different when it comes to Surgeons/Doctors and other trades.

- Sorry Rants over. Back on topic

[Mr Footlong]

I had held back on saying this but since the above was posted, sod it. Chalk this one up to experience and get that car as far away from this random outfit as possible. Are you ooop north? If so, contact Grizz at Unit 20, he will no doubt do everything he can to help and has a collection service too.

You would be MENTAL not to get people that actually know one end of this engine from the other, to sort this out after these rather nasty and potentially damaging hiccups.

If daan sarf, you have a ton of options. Don't let that lot continue to hit random things with hammers imo.

[grizz]

I would not run the car at all .. Call the AA And get it recover to some that knows what why are doing .....You never use paint marks on a rs6 ...

Only ever a pin and locking bar ...It sounds like the cam timing is out on 1 bank ...

grizz

[Shoppinit]

What they all said. Run the fcuk away.

[Mr V10]

What they all said. Run the fcuk away.

lol

[imacool]

In this current climate people don’t get Pay rises as regular as prior years, They work long hours and don’t have no real passion in their work no more, Their level of Workman ship goes downhill due to frustration of the hard labour with little reward and little if not any Incentives to be bothered.. They aren’t the guys who are worrying about your car at night there just waiting for Fridays payday after the governments taken their taxes out.. They don’t care because it’s simply not there car to care about.

Just one example, At the weekend Over a Pint me and my best pal were talking about work and general everything..We got on the subject of his new job working for a gearbox firm.. He said that their boss specifically tells them not to replace the Top bulkhead gearbox bell housing bolts on Taxis (Can you believe this?) Just because it takes up too much time to replace them all on re-installation, But they have to make the effort and complete the job for young women with children.. My friend obviously seriously disagrees but can’t say much as he need to hold out the job. Its just a shame how things come down to this.. And don’t think for one minute its any different when it comes to Surgeons/Doctors and other trades.

- Sorry Rants over. Back on topic

I could not agree more with the above.
I work as a dentist and I'll tell you, if a poor dental work was lethal, this country would run out of the body bags very quickly...

[Shoppinit]

I work as a dentist

Interesting sentence construction. Are you a dentist or do you just work as one?

[Mr Footlong]

If you were anywhere near me Imacool, you would have my business as my dentist is beyond shat sadly . Anyhoo, Lionheart, you know the deal my son.

[imacool]

I work as a dentist

Interesting sentence construction. Are you a dentist or do you just work as one?

Why do I ever bother to post on this forum....?

Yes, I am a dentist.

[Shoppinit]

That's what I love about dentists. Their sense of humour.

[Mr V10]

Speaking of dentists, has anyone seen Jennifer Aniston in Horrible Bosses. WOW.

[chunky79]

That's what I love about dentists. Their sense of humour.

Trouble maker.

[Mr Footlong]

Speaking of dentists, has anyone seen Jennifer Aniston in Horrible Bosses. WOW.

She could take a Cleveland Steamer on me any day.